the edc WATCH thread

teratos · Apr 18, 2020

zoostation said:
Thanks. I like Vostoks, and the Amphibias seem to made a lot better in recent years. Their windup watches always seemed pretty good in the past but the self-winders were always troublesome, at least for me.

The older Amphibias I collected years ago, I bought them pretty much with the thought in mind they were more collectibles than useful watches. Even bought new they were prone to die after a while of moderate use. I'm surprised they were certified by the Soviets for military use, but then again maybe I'm not.

I was in the Soviet Union in ‘88 and ‘89. I’m not shocked. Quality wasn’t a thing.

Batt816 · Apr 18, 2020

teratos said:
I was in the Soviet Union in ‘88 and ‘89. I’m not shocked. Quality wasn’t a thing.

I was there for 20 days in 88. They loved American stuff then, I guess because all of their stuff was junk. Got a lot of “souvenirs” traded for American jeans and sweatshirts.

johnkn · Apr 18, 2020

BlueFin said:
In your case it is not a problem. You know your seller and you know the watch you are buying. But for folks who like to own one has to do a lot or research before you plunk 10K on a vintage Rolex. I know a guy(my brother) bought a 1988 16700 from Asia and it came with a Gilt dial.

There are many, many trusted sellers that are not ADs. Take a look at DavidSW.com for instance, David offers some of the finest watches available, and lots to choose from and learn about.. Zero risk there, and there are many like him in the U.S. good luck

bpm32 · Apr 18, 2020

teratos said:
I was in the Soviet Union in ‘88 and ‘89. I’m not shocked. Quality wasn’t a thing.

Quantity has a quality all its own?

I know, I know—an apocryphal quote.

johnkn · Apr 18, 2020

SkiPatrolDude said:
I was specifically referring to second hand market. Especially those that have inflated prices over MSRP. It's a well known fact that Rolex does not allow any discount to their MSRP, regardless of what's going on.

What I am saying is the market for second hand items like a Daytona or Pepsi GMT or Patek may come down. And even better deals may be found in the realm of Omega's, IWC, etc.

I disagree that most people who can afford an 8k watch will be unaffected. I cannot tell you how many people I know, myself included, that make albiet decent salaries that will save up and fork over a lot of coin for a 5-10k watch. The target buyer for a Submariner makes less money than you may think.

Hi, It is NOT true that a Rolex AD cannot discount a watch. It happens frequently. You're not going to get a discount on a new Stainless Sports watch like a Sub, GMT, Sea Dweller, etc. right now (its rare to even be able to find one to purchase w/o getting on a waiting list or have a relationship with the AD with previous purchases), however discounts can be had now at AD's when purchasing PM (precious metal) sports models like a White or Yellow Gold, or Platinum GMT, SD, or Sub, etc., or when bundling multiple watches with a PM model.

While there undoubtedly are people now who will choose to not purchase due to current events, the pricing for Rolex Sports watches in the secondary market really has not been effected by COVID-19 at this point. There are plenty of folks ready to purchase. good luck..

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Zorros · Apr 18, 2020

I was looking for a submariner for my son and wouldn’t pay Full retail. Got laughed at by a few dealers for asking and then stopped into Mayor’s on Lincoln Road in Miami. Walked out buying a ( sea dweller, i think) watch at a fair discount and had it sent to avoid sales tax. You just don’t know. and Mayors is a big fla chain and an AD.

teratos · Apr 18, 2020

Zorros said:
I was looking for a submariner for my son and wouldn’t pay Full retail. Got laughed at by a few dealers for asking and then stopped into Mayor’s on Lincoln Road in Miami. Walked out buying a ( sea dweller, i think) watch at a fair discount and had it sent to avoid sales tax. You just don’t know. and Mayors is a big fla chain and an AD.

Even what they charge for used is silly. I got a Sub in 1999. I can get $2000 more than I paid for it, no problem.

rbird7282 · Apr 18, 2020

BlueFin said:
If possible always buy these items through an authorized seller. Stay away from gray markets, especially from Asia which are usually much cheaper but are franken watches.

Honestly I almost never buy from an AD. With few exceptions, watches are very much like cats in that I’d much rather have someone else take the hit to “drive it off the lot”.
I’ve bought probably 20 watches only 4-5 of which were new. Never an issue and saved a bunch of money.

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johnkn · Apr 18, 2020

teratos said:
Even what they charge for used is silly. I got a Sub in 1999. I can get $2000 more than I paid for it, no problem.

Yep, the Rolex (and fine timepiece) market remains strong, and that certainly isn't a bad thing....

rbird7282 · Apr 18, 2020

SkiPatrolDude said:
I was specifically referring to second hand market. Especially those that have inflated prices over MSRP. It's a well known fact that Rolex does not allow any discount to their MSRP, regardless of what's going on.

What I am saying is the market for second hand items like a Daytona or Pepsi GMT or Patek may come down. And even better deals may be found in the realm of Omega's, IWC, etc.

I disagree that most people who can afford an 8k watch will be unaffected. I cannot tell you how many people I know, myself included, that make albiet decent salaries that will save up and fork over a lot of coin for a 5-10k watch. The target buyer for a Submariner makes less money than you may think.

Perhaps but the market for Daytona’s and Pepsi GMT’s isn’t going to come down at all. People are paying stupid money for those watches and it will continue.
New Omegas won’t come down either but with the used market there may be some decent deals here and there although I still don’t think it will be anything close to widespread

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rbird7282 · Apr 18, 2020

zoostation said:
Vostok Amphibia. Had some fun and put it on a NATO band.

Nice!
NATO straps are awesome.

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johnkn · Apr 19, 2020

^^^ very nice. ^^^

trickg · Apr 19, 2020

Different strokes for different folks and all, but I've never understood the allure of putting a nice watch on a cheap piece of nylon. I can understand a nice sailcloth strap, or a nice embossed leather strap, but the NATO strap just doesn't do it for me.

zoostation · Apr 19, 2020

rbird7282 said:
Nice!
NATO straps are awesome.

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Very nice.

joppaj · Apr 20, 2020

Watch fans, tell me about Luminox. A few years ago I bought a Luminox 5021 GN. I probably wore it a dozen times before I decided that a G-Shock was more practical for work. It went back in the box and has sat untouched since. Now it has a dead battery and I'm trying to figure out if I want to swap the battery and use it or just sell it. Are they well built watches, fairly accurate as these things go? I'm thinking this would be a candidate for a NATO strap if I keep it...

Educate me please.

zoostation · Apr 20, 2020

joppaj said:
Watch fans, tell me about Luminox. A few years ago I bought a Luminox 5021 GN. I probably wore it a dozen times before I decided that a G-Shock was more practical for work. It went back in the box and has sat untouched since. Now it has a dead battery and I'm trying to figure out if I want to swap the battery and use it or just sell it. Are they well built watches, fairly accurate as these things go? I'm thinking this would be a candidate for a NATO strap if I keep it...

Educate me please.

Swiss quartz movements, decently built, tritium markers were of course the main draw. ( Swiss quartz movements aren't generally all that much more expensive than other decent quartz ones). I know a number of people including me who have had trouble with them. The one I had died spontaneously after not much usage. Definitely worth a battery and a new strap. I wouldn't buy one again though. Traser makes a much better tritium watch cheaper in my humble opinion.

Alea Jacta Est · Apr 21, 2020

Any input here on Sinn watches. Specifically the U1?

2SAM22 · Apr 22, 2020

Nnztg8r said:
Any input here on Sinn watches. Specifically the U1?

I love mine. I'd opt for the fully tegimented version if they are still available. I've had mine for about 6 years, maybe 7, and it still looks brand new.

Alea Jacta Est · Apr 22, 2020

Thanks brother. That’s helpful.

Speed3 · Apr 22, 2020

Nnztg8r said:
Any input here on Sinn watches. Specifically the U1?

I had to google those...they look VERY nice. I'll have to remember these when time to make another purchase.

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