Boat gun

wabbit · Jan 6, 2019

Does anyone here keep a rifle on their boat for emergencies?
Let's suppose someone wanted to sail around the world on their sailboat over a course of a year or two and will sail through the South China Sea, Strait of Malacca, Indian Ocean, and by the Horn of Africa. What rifle would be a good choice for someone who's more a sailor than a shooter? How do you secure the rifle and ammo when coming into a foreign port and avoiding getting in trouble with the local police?
I'm thinking an AK-47 would be a good choice because of the caliber, reliability of the rifle, and the availability of magazines and ammo around the world. The only emergencies the rifle would be handy for would be encounters with pirates.

cstone · Jan 6, 2019

I think I would rely on a shotgun.

Jimbob2.0 · Jan 6, 2019

Country rules vary widely about whats permitted in their territorial waters. I think a Shotgun is your best bet for minor issues and can be at least explained as a signaling and utility arm as well. . Make sure you sale around NJ.

I would not want to sail into certain waters with an AK47 plus if you think you are going to go Rambo on some pirates with one person and a gun you are sadly mistaken they will likely have you for lunch (possibly literally).

sgt23preston · Jan 6, 2019

I think a Bazooka would work nicely backed up by a 45ACP Pistola...

Muleskinner · Jan 6, 2019

Snake charmer 410. Plastic and good quality stainless..

ironpony · Jan 6, 2019

I have built various parts to help hide boat guns, I mostly see mini 14 in Stainless, and mainly for island hopping cats.

Trigger Time · Jan 6, 2019

https://www.remington.com/shotguns/pump-action/model-870/model-870-special-purpose-marine-magnum

Inigoes · Jan 6, 2019

In case you really need to signal for help, or repel boarders.

Jimbob2.0 · Jan 6, 2019

Trigger Tuner said:
https://www.remington.com/shotguns/pump-action/model-870/model-870-special-purpose-marine-magnum

Rock Island M5 in hard chrome is a good bargain alternative. $200 bucks call it a day.

I can see the OP's point if you have the occasional fisherman/hobby pirate with a machete. Organized pirates just get ready to be ransomed.

Jimbob2.0 · Jan 6, 2019

Inigoes said:
In case you really need to signal for help, or repel boarders.

It has the intimidation factor.

Mr. Ed · Jan 6, 2019

I used to keep an H&R single shot stainless 12 gauge on board. For shooting flares, of course.

Doctor_M · Jan 6, 2019

Yep, stainless 12 ga is the way to go. Can signal, shoot flares, shoot seabirds for food, and if you aren't a trained sniper, taking a shot off a rolling deck at any target isn't high probability... go with a shotty.

TheOriginalMexicanBob · Jan 7, 2019

I would think the best firearm you can not feel too bad about losing should it be discovered by the authorities and confiscated. To me that would be something in the SKS category of rifles and Maverick Arms or RIA series of shotguns.

That also assumes you're not confiscated along with the firearm and jailed.

hobiecat590 · Jan 7, 2019

Doctor_M said:
Yep, stainless 12 ga is the way to go. Can signal, shoot flares, shoot seabirds for food, and if you aren't a trained sniper, taking a shot off a rolling deck at any target isn't high probability... go with a shotty.

12 ga SS, short barrel, smooth bore, non choked, pump action with a folding telescopic stock with a light and loaded w/ 00 buck shot. They call these deck sweepers for a reason :-). Back in the day, a 500A Mossberg, Rem 870 tactical etc w/ the 8 shot extended mage was a nice tool to repel boarders. Today, I'd look at a magazine fed one for rapid reloading.

I would check to ensure that it is safe to shoot a flare out your gun and avoid full choked barrels.

Check the regs of the country you plan to visit. It is my understanding that you could have the Coast Guard seal a case containing a firearm and that would satisfy countries with strict gun control laws. So long as the seal is not broken you are good to go.

Good luck.

winch · Jan 7, 2019

I agree with JimBob on the RIA M5 for $200. Be aware that the law will ask if you weapons on board in case you get stopped. Also, while I have not boated to foreign lands, be damn careful about what you have on board because you can get in a lot of trouble.

TomisinMd · Jan 7, 2019

Mossberg used to make a Just in Case marine version. SS with a packing tube. really cool item.

Jimbob2.0 · Jan 12, 2019

TomisinMd said:
Mossberg used to make a Just in Case marine version. SS with a packing tube. really cool item.

I would want a stock. A couple slugs to the waterline of a fiberglass hulled boat chasing you could make their day very bad indeed.

For boarders I have been becoming a fan of these.

My HD shottie is loaded with 00 buck (2 rds) followed by these (2 rds) etc.

Straightbolt · Jan 13, 2019

cstone said:
I think I would rely on a shotgun.

Remington 870 Special Purpose Marine Magnum SS and and ample supply of fresh rifled slugs and a few boxes of 000 3" buck shot

https://www.remington.com/shotguns/pump-action/model-870/model-870-special-purpose-marine-magnum

nomade · Jan 13, 2019

What about an RPG?....

zoostation · Jan 13, 2019

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