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Old March 12th, 2020, 08:53 PM #1
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Rifle, rail or scope?

Remington 725 VTR came with a center point 3-9x32 scope but I upgraded to CP 4-16X40 IR. No matter what I do, it still shoots left of target has no more windage adjustment - it's adjusted max left. What is the problem? I've hit several bullseyes but it's very inconsistent and requires a lot of Kentucky windage and elevation!!!

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Old March 12th, 2020, 09:38 PM #2
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Match rings or non? Torque setting on ring screws?
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Match rings or non? Torque setting on ring screws?
Non match. They're just what came with the new scope. I mounted & aligned it, tightened it up the best I could. It did it with the included scope too. The best I can figure is the rail. It shouldn't happen with both scopes!!! And it is an air rifle...not firearm. AND the target is only 35 yards

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Could be the rail, the rings, or the rifle. I had a ruger precision rifle that was like that from the factory. I could get it zeroíd but it was so far left it was affecting how far it could dial up. They ended up replacing everything but the receiver. Do you have another ring, scope combo.

Iím not smart enough to check the rail itself but is the receiver round or flat. If round, screw in one side of the rail and tap on the other. If it tap, one of them is out of spec. If not, try the other end. Most of them move a little. I bed them always but if it that far out, it will be a decent amount of movement.

The rings could be the case depending on how they are designed. Alignment bars could tell you if they are inline with each other.
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I had a gamo rifle that the first shot hit my hose about 1000 MOA low ten feet in front of the target. The scope was junk and the rifle barrel was apparently bent. After talking to their customer service who talked to me like a 12 year old kid that never touched a gun I finally convinced him I wasn't at fault and got a shipping label. The new one they sent was perfect.
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Never had any luck with center point scopes. That’s where I’d look first. Got a known good scope to try?
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Never had any luck with center point scopes. Thatís where Iíd look first. Got a known good scope to try?
I'm going to try a different scope/rings from another rifle & see if that gets me anywhere. Then I'll check square of the rail w/the barrel/reciever if the scope doesn't do the trick. And if neither works I'll call pyramydair and tell them I want another one to replace it. But got another mounted & laser bore sighted tonight. We'll see what happens tomorrow.

First pics is with Polymags, 2nd is the target @ 45 yards & 3rd is with JSB Kings

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how does the gun group at 50-75 feet?

Cause those shots are all over
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I just replaced the scope. I won't use center point again.
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Howdy, piston guns are rough on scopes. I used the Bullseye ZR mount on my piston and spring guns with good results. It is expensive but worth it because you can put any scope on them without blowing the scope apart. I used both 1" and 30mm and the ring system was great. Torque according to sequence and all will work smoothly. I too am not a fan of Centerpoints; I have one that turns a clear day into a foggy night...
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