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Old November 8th, 2018, 02:09 PM #81
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I was in trial last week and the judge had an emergency 1302 petition that he had to hear. There was a detective that brought the petition and indicated that they had brought to the hospital an individual who was threatening to kill himself. They ran his name through the gun registry and it came up that he had no guns. The judge asked the detective why he was there then. The detective stated that they "wanted to be sure that he had no firearms."

This is scary because in my opinion, the police did not have probable cause to obtain this. The individual was being held for a psych evaluation. He had no access to any firearms. If he were released, that would mean that he was not a danger to himself or others. Why search his home then for weapons that do not exist?

Come on now, the cop was just doing their job. Don't think too much into it.
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I was in trial last week and the judge had an emergency 1302 petition that he had to hear. There was a detective that brought the petition and indicated that they had brought to the hospital an individual who was threatening to kill himself. They ran his name through the gun registry and it came up that he had no guns. The judge asked the detective why he was there then. The detective stated that they "wanted to be sure that he had no firearms."

This is scary because in my opinion, the police did not have probable cause to obtain this. The individual was being held for a psych evaluation. He had no access to any firearms. If he were released, that would mean that he was not a danger to himself or others. Why search his home then for weapons that do not exist?
Scary stuff; I assume the judge signed away. Thanks for sharing.
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Wow, search warrants with no factual support. Sounds rather Totalitarian to me. Maybe they should get a search warrant for everybody who has and argument or threatens suicide. Imagine all the "fruit of the poisonous" tree items they could find. Imagine the possibilities with mental patients.
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Wow, search warrants with no factual support. Sounds rather Totalitarian to me. Maybe they should get a search warrant for everybody who has and argument or threatens suicide. Imagine all the "fruit of the poisonous" tree items they could find. Imagine the possibilities with mental patients.
Wait until they tie the speed cameras to the firearms database and take your guns when you run a red light.
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Strengthen the law?? How much worse can that get , no wait don t answer that
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I was in trial last week and the judge had an emergency 1302 petition that he had to hear. There was a detective that brought the petition and indicated that they had brought to the hospital an individual who was threatening to kill himself. They ran his name through the gun registry and it came up that he had no guns. The judge asked the detective why he was there then. The detective stated that they "wanted to be sure that he had no firearms."

This is scary because in my opinion, the police did not have probable cause to obtain this. The individual was being held for a psych evaluation. He had no access to any firearms. If he were released, that would mean that he was not a danger to himself or others. Why search his home then for weapons that do not exist?
Was it granted? 1302 explicitly states "by possessing a firearm" as THE critical criteria. To approve it would be assuming guilt.
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Was it granted? 1302 explicitly states "by possessing a firearm" as THE critical criteria. To approve it would be assuming guilt.


I’m assuming there is no way to tell?
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I was in trial last week and the judge had an emergency 1302 petition that he had to hear. There was a detective that brought the petition and indicated that they had brought to the hospital an individual who was threatening to kill himself. They ran his name through the gun registry and it came up that he had no guns. The judge asked the detective why he was there then. The detective stated that they "wanted to be sure that he had no firearms."

This is scary because in my opinion, the police did not have probable cause to obtain this. The individual was being held for a psych evaluation. He had no access to any firearms. If he were released, that would mean that he was not a danger to himself or others. Why search his home then for weapons that do not exist?
That's amazing. New tool in the toolbox. Wonder if it's being used as a manner of routine. I presume people can not consent to searches of their homes, and at least for households with no known firearms owners, they can't easily obtain a warrant to force it on the pretext that there might be guns there.

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They were just talking of this on FNC in regards to CA and they changed to introducing the idea of how many guns one person may own!!


Wheres that panic buying thread loll
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