So what if Hogan wins a Second term?

East2West · Jun 21, 2018

Blacksmith101 said:
People who "can't vote for Hogan" please explain two things.

1. Who do you think will win the general election?

2. How will this person be better than Hogan?

1. Hogan

2. The best part of anyone other than Hogan is, when they sign legislation taking away more of our rights, they'll do it without my vote or money..... I guess Hogan falls into that category too.

Bottom line, I refuse to support ANY candidate who so easily craps on our rights, regardless of their reason. I refuse to live in the "But the alternative is worse" world of politics.

HoCoShooter · Jun 21, 2018

Voting for Hogan was the last spoonful of poop that I'll be feeding myself in Maryland. I had been voting "R" for so long in hopes that we would get a decent Governor who valued the same things I did, or most of them anyhow. Then we finally get an R and he turns out not only not to be one, but to be a backstabber at that.

Allen65 · Jun 21, 2018

mterry said:
The winner will be against the 1st, 2nd, and 5th amendments.

Don't forget the 4th & 14, all that icky due process and equal protection under the law stuff.

Vetted84 · Jun 21, 2018

Blacksmith101 said:
People who "can't vote for Hogan" please explain two things.

1. Who do you think will win the general election?

2. How will this person be better than Hogan?

1. The Democrat
2. They will stab me in the heart instead of the back.

Fox123 · Jun 21, 2018

The party looks at election results and sees where they lost votes.

I will not be voting for hogan and the party will see that RINO policies are not a winning strategy.

CrazySanMan · Jun 21, 2018

Fox123 said:
The party looks at election results and sees where they lost votes.

I will not be voting for hogan and the party will see that RINO policies are not a winning strategy.

THIS!!!

Why don't the people in the "Lesser of two evils" camp understand this????

CrazySanMan · Jun 21, 2018

Gun owners voting for Hogan be like

Sirex · Jun 22, 2018

Vote for;
1.The devil you know
2. The devil you don't know

spoon059 · Jun 23, 2018

CrazySanMan said:
THIS!!!

Why don't the people in the "Lesser of two evils" camp understand this????

Because their are issues other than the 2nd amendment. Maryland will not elect a pro gun governor. Doesn't matter who you vote for or against... it ain't gonna happen.

Vote for the Republican and save yourself some money to be able to afford to drive to PA, VA or WV to buy your gun stuff.

Vote against the Republican party more taxes, have more "social programs", more liberal policies and lose more 2A issues and lose them quicker.

What you are suggesting is commonly referred to as 'throwing the baby out with the bath water'. A single issue, which will never have the popular support you seek, should not be enough for you to essentially sabotage the entire election...

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Sthomas229 · Jun 23, 2018

Jim12 said:
COTUS "allows" it? Where does it say that?

He's thinking of Dec. of Ind., I think. And I wouldn't say it "allows" it, it say it's there right to alter or abolish.

dreadpirate · Jun 27, 2018

Hogan versus Jealous? I'll take my chances with Hogan.

welder516 · Jun 27, 2018

dreadpirate said:
Hogan versus Jealous? I'll take my chances with Hogan.

Amen

Boondock Saint · Jun 27, 2018

Grabbers can suck it.

Hogan is a grabber. Jealous is a grabber

By the transitive property of sucking it, Hogan and Jealous can suck it.

Augie · Jun 27, 2018

Boondock Saint said:
Grabbers can suck it.

Hogan is a grabber. Jealous is a grabber

By the transitive property of sucking it, Hogan and Jealous can suck it.

Big difference is Jealous will sponsor the gun grabbing legislation and ram it through the legislature at the same time raping you on taxes.

We went 3 years with Hogan and no gun grabbing legislation made it through, as a matter of fact their were a couple minor reductions,sheel casing and better review board, it was guaranteed that the democraps were going to throw as much anti 2a stuff as they could this session and hope something stuck to use against Hogan during an election year.

Sure he could have vetoed those 2 bills but the democraps would have vetoed him, the laws would have gone in effect and they would be using the vetoes against him right now.

I'll take my chances with Hogan, he has done a lot of good for the state at the same time fighting a hostile legislature. I've got to live in this ******** state and I pray to god it isn't under Jealous.

dblas · Jun 27, 2018

Augie said:
Big difference is Jealous will sponsor the gun grabbing legislation and ram it through the legislature at the same time raping you on taxes.

We went 3 years with Hogan and no gun grabbing legislation made it through, as a matter of fact their were a couple minor reductions,sheel casing and better review board, it was guaranteed that the democraps were going to throw as much anti 2a stuff as they could this session and hope something stuck to use against Hogan during an election year.

Sure he could have vetoed those 2 bills but the democraps would have vetoed him, the laws would have gone in effect and they would be using the vetoes against him right now.

I'll take my chances with Hogan, he has done a lot of good for the state at the same time fighting a hostile legislature. I've got to live in this ******** state and I pray to god it isn't under Jealous.

Nope, not really, per the Maryland Constitution, any veto made in the last year of an election year, after the legislative session has ended, cannot be brought back in the first year of a new election cycle and over ridden.

fidelity · Jun 27, 2018

dblas said:
Nope, not really, per the Maryland Constitution, any veto made in the last year of an election year, after the legislative session has ended, cannot be brought back in the first year of a new election cycle and over ridden.

Wondering the effect that Jealous will have on Hogan. Will he move further to the left, or speak out against Jealous's policy platforms and for more limited government? He ran against increasing taxes last time, so I would expect consistency on this issue (and thus support of more limited government).

At the same time, Hogan's been doing his best to depress support from Trump voters, immigration control advocates, and 2A proponents in the state. Some might be political calculation, indifference towards these constituencies, etc. But Jealous is going to energize his base and be a more capable opponent than Brown (coming off of 8 years of O'Malley with people receptive to change). It's not like Trump voters, immigration control advocates, and 2A supporters are going to vote for Jealous, but I wonder if Hogan is going to make any effort to fire up these voters, or punt and hope that fear of Jealous will help with Republican turnout. I think this play-it-safe, adopt more left-leaning-positions strategy would be a mistake as some of these Democrats (that vote in polls that they like Hogan) will vote in the actual election for Jealous, if simply to send a message to Trump (while at the same time saying that Hogan is a nice guy).

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Mr H · Jun 27, 2018

dblas said:
Nope, not really, per the Maryland Constitution, any veto made in the last year of an election year, after the legislative session has ended, cannot be brought back in the first year of a new election cycle and over ridden.

In a discussion I had with a 'friendly' delegate, part of the concern was what the Steaming Pile of Frosh might have been able to do in opposition to any Pro bills that were signed.

Craig Wolf must win.

Jim12 · Jun 27, 2018

dblas said:
Nope, not really, per the Maryland Constitution, any veto made in the last year of an election year, after the legislative session has ended, cannot be brought back in the first year of a new election cycle and over ridden.

They still would have used his veto during this fall campaign as potent fodder to defeat him and elect Jealous.

Then, who decides whether it's similar enough or the same legislation that's being "brought back" versus something different? There are lots of ways to skin a cat. With the Dems in full control in the MGA, AG office, and the governorship, they would. Right?

Augie · Jun 27, 2018

dblas said:
Nope, not really, per the Maryland Constitution, any veto made in the last year of an election year, after the legislative session has ended, cannot be brought back in the first year of a new election cycle and over ridden.

Wasn't the bump stock ban passed with 7 days left? If so he has to pass or veto before the end of session and they can over ride his veto.
The red flag he could have vetoed but they would be using it against him right now.

altima98 · Jun 27, 2018

Voting for hogan and hoeber, don’t want see Trone or been jealous win

So what if Hogan wins a Second term?

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