.357 @ 5 yds drops 679 lb PA black bear
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kaliroger
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kaliroger
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I am thinking the bear was hunting and the guy with the .357 was just defending himself. Not sure anyone hunting a bear, specially that large would wait until they were that close to the bear!!
54rndball
take to the hills
.357 Magnum is no joke. Fired in a lever action carbine, it can reach close to 30-30 Winchester ballistics under 100 yds. From a handgun, this often means muzzle velocity in excess of 1,00 fps and 400+ ft-lbs., depending on the ammuntion.
I don't think anyone implied that the cartridge can't do the job, only that this guy shot the bear 5 feet away! 
- Jan 17, 2013
- 1,683
They were on a Christmas tree farm. The bear was pushed right to him. Probably wasnt expecting it that close though.
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Gentle Ben weeps.
- Feb 2, 2016
- 2,478
Here we go again (see Griz thread)
From Buffalo Bore on the box. Note the actual tables show much higher velocity and ft lbs. All are Hard Cast except the 454
round grain FPS Ft Lbs
45 acp 255 925 484
10 mm 220 1200 703
357 mag 180 1400 783
45lc +p 325 1325 1267
44 mag+p+340 1425 1533
454 casull 300 1650 1813
From Buffalo Bore on the box. Note the actual tables show much higher velocity and ft lbs. All are Hard Cast except the 454
round grain FPS Ft Lbs
45 acp 255 925 484
10 mm 220 1200 703
357 mag 180 1400 783
45lc +p 325 1325 1267
44 mag+p+340 1425 1533
454 casull 300 1650 1813
Did you mean to say 30 carbine (M1 carbine) equivalent cause I think that's what a 357 from a rifle is closer to. (30 carbine being lighter but faster)
30-30 is going to be like double that
DutchV
Ultimate Member
- Jul 8, 2012
- 4,722
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html
Speeds for .357 mag in rifle length barrels:
- 130 gr around 2,000 fps; 158 gr averages 1,700 fps.
Speeds for .357 mag in rifle length barrels:
- 130 gr around 2,000 fps; 158 gr averages 1,700 fps.
Dave
Ultimate Member
Moorvogi
Firearm Advocate
- Dec 28, 2014
- 855
Impossible! Maryland says a .357 magun rifle doesnt have enough power to kill a whitetail deer let alone a 679 pound bear
hahah i spoke to the DNR about this when they passed the law to allow airgun hunting which doesn't meet the 1,200 foot pounds. they said due to the modern projectiles blah blah blah... it's fine. Then i pointed out that if you had a subsonic 458 socom for example.. which is bigger than their .40 minimum required for airguns.. and gave it 1,100 foot pounds of energy.... while it's a bigger entry hole AND 3-4x the energy.. it's still not MD legal for deer hunting UNLESS.. it's a 458 socom PISTOL which follows different rules....
rules/regulations make no sense sometimes.
Muleskinner
Ultimate Member
Impossible! Maryland says a .357 magun rifle doesnt have enough power to kill a whitetail deer let alone a 679 pound bear
Maryland might say it, but I killed a deer IN MARYLAND last year with a .357 mag and a head shot..
Muleskinner
Ultimate Member
This is Md DNR, IT'S MOST OF THE TIME..
