U.S. Mosin Nagant

JimB · May 10, 2020

I have a back of the safe M91 that I would like the M.D.S brains to give me some info. So far all I know is US made and SA marked. I have never shot this and I am probably going to sell it to fund a Sporting Clay over and under. Thanks in advance for your help. Stay Healthy.

Jimbob2.0 · May 10, 2020

Real piece of history.

https://www.outdoorhub.com/stories/2011/09/27/story-of-a-gun-an-american-mosin/

Prices are all over the map, I have seen anywhere from $400 to $1700 lately being largely driven by condition and whether its US stamped with those having not made it to Russia being much more valuable. That one has been through Finnish hands by the look of it. I have a similar one.

BossmanPJ · May 10, 2020

I want a US stamped Mosin as well. They go for pretty good cash right now.

Ack Ack · May 10, 2020

Here's a video from Ian McCullom about U.S. made Mosin's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-OfevJb03M

Gordon · May 10, 2020

If I put a forever us stamp on mine you want it. lol

JimB · May 11, 2020

Looking at the rifle I noticed on the right side of the barrel there is a number starting with a S. Little research says that it is a Finnish Civil Defense number. So far we have a N.E.W, Matching numbers, SA Stamped, Finnish Defense stamped rifle. Im thinking we have quite the collector value here. Does anyone know who I should take this to for appraisal? And to document the rifle.

Abraxaslotus · May 11, 2020

http://www.mosin.fi/

A bit expensive for a m91, but i had this guy look up my m28-30 and m28. My m28-30's provenance was interesting. My M28 was a bit disappointing.

JimB · May 11, 2020

Thanks for the link. Anyone have a guess as to the value?

MilsurpDan · May 11, 2020

JimB said:
Looking at the rifle I noticed on the right side of the barrel there is a number starting with a S. Little research says that it is a Finnish Civil Defense number. So far we have a N.E.W, Matching numbers, SA Stamped, Finnish Defense stamped rifle. Im thinking we have quite the collector value here. Does anyone know who I should take this to for appraisal? And to document the rifle.

Probably worth $450-500.

N.E.W. rifles are nice, but they’re still fairly common. The U.S. surcharged examples go for big money. Unfortunately this isn’t one of those.

Alphabrew · May 11, 2020

I had a NEW that I sold for $500. It was in really good condition though, I haven’t seen one better.

Jimbob2.0 · May 12, 2020

Alphabrew said:
I had a NEW that I sold for $500. It was in really good condition though, I haven’t seen one better.

I think I bought that one off of you, it was definitely one of the better ones I have seen.

CodeWarrior1241 · May 12, 2020

A US-made Mosin is an awesome piece of history to own. Ppl in the Mosin's homeland lose their minds over pieces like this actually belonging to someone.

A US Mosin and a US 1895 lever action 54R are ones I absolutely need to own one day.

JimB · May 12, 2020

I would love to have someone that knows their shit about Mosins go over my gun and lit me know what it really is. I would be willing to pay. What can I do as as taking it apart cleaning cosmoline out. Cleaning stock. I don’t want to ruin historical value if there is any. The stock is pretty rough. Thank you everyone for your responses.

Jimbob2.0 · May 13, 2020

JimB said:
I would love to have someone that knows their shit about Mos ins go over my gun and lit me know what it really is. I would be willing to pay. What can I do as as taking it apart cleaning cosmoline out. Cleaning stock. I don’t want to ruin historical value if there is any. The stock is pretty rough. Thank you everyone for your responses.

I think you will find a fair amount of information exists on the web. Yours is very similar to mine, condition varying. Its a Finn and as with all Finn Nagants they have awesome history.

Here are some good pages that should help you answer 95% of questions you might have.

http://7.62x54r.net/
https://russian-mosin-nagant.com/
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/is-your-mosin-nagant-worth-money/

One of the things you have in your favor is that it has the upper hand guard, they were very thin and tend to crack over the years and are VERY hard to find replacements for. I would say 9 out of 10 Remington or NEW guns I have seen have been missing this piece.

I would love to get my hands on a U.S. Property NEW with a flaming bomb or a Bannerman conversion just for the history.

JimB · May 13, 2020

Thanks JimBob,
There are so many markings and so much information out there it's difficult to track and digest all the info. I am learning a ton doing the research.

h2u · May 13, 2020

MilsurpDan said:
Probably worth $450-500.

N.E.W. rifles are nice, but they’re still fairly common. The U.S. surcharged examples go for big money. Unfortunately this isn’t one of those.

C’mon. Everyone knows all Mozins are only worth $150-$200... :sad20:

Kidding

As usual, Dan has given a very fair assessment. I would agree, mostly due to the fact it appears the rifle is still in a non-Bubba’ed Black Walnut Stock with all the hardware per originally issued.
OP - is it a NEW stock? Recoil lug looks to be centered in finger groove. Does buttplate match the barrel serial?
All I see right now is a Finn Army matched bolt. Not original. Could even be the third bolt knob assembly as several Civil Guard depots put their number on bolt flat to match CG number on barrel.

JimB said:
Thanks JimBob,
There are so many markings and so much information out there it's difficult to track and digest all the info. I am learning a ton doing the research.

Truly the best way to learn! Even if it is just about Mosins....

JimB · May 13, 2020

I will check when I get home and see if I can get more info. What do you think? Take it apart and check for numbers/stamps?

h2u · May 13, 2020

JimB said:
I will check when I get home and see if I can get more info. What do you think? Take it apart and check for numbers/stamps?

No need to take apart. 98% of the stamps/marks below the wood line are misc unknown inspector‘s roll marks.

On the left side of the butt stock, look for Cyrillic letters in a circle. I’m including a pic. This basically interprets to “English Contract”.

Again, due to the nature of your specific rifle, you are looking at $450-500 as the value. Any information over and above will be for self edification should you decide to keep.

CodeWarrior1241 · May 13, 2020

h2u said:
On the left side of the butt stock, look for Cyrillic letters in a circle. I’m including a pic. This basically interprets to “English Contract”.

Literally - "English Order" - "Anglijskij Zakaz"

h2u · May 13, 2020

CodeWarrior1241 said:
Literally - "English Order" - "Anglijskij Zakaz"

Thanks!

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