I would never let that gun leave my bedroom! Beautiful.
Dumping the semi, Getting a Sporting O/U; Opinions?
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This for CGs. Jack Bart will meet you at Loch Raven (or somewhere else) and let you shoot several guns and stock configurations. Then he will give you a great price, sit with you and do the forms by cell phone, and you go home with the gun.
Easy peasy.
Or he'll take you to the Cambridge distributor and let you pick a gun where Andrew (gunsmith) will fit it to you.
CGs may be a little more cash, but you'll never need another gun.
I have 3 CGs and am a fan. (sold my 680 series Berettas)
dreadpirate
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So you had a very solid Beretta 680 something and sold it for a CG? Wow!
dreadpirate
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If I am going to drop $16,000 or more on a SINGLE firearm, it would be a full auto NFA item, not a shotgun (unless it was owned by Teddy Roosevelt).
HOWEVER - You guys make a good point; why spend $2,000 on a Beretta/Browning only to turn around in 5 years and get a $5,000 GC? It's just hard for me to tell how serious into clay shooting I will be in the future.
[EDIT] why spend $2,000 on a Beretta/Browning only to turn around in 5 years and get a $3,500 GC?
HOWEVER - You guys make a good point; why spend $2,000 on a Beretta/Browning only to turn around in 5 years and get a $5,000 GC? It's just hard for me to tell how serious into clay shooting I will be in the future.
[EDIT] why spend $2,000 on a Beretta/Browning only to turn around in 5 years and get a $3,500 GC?
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My new CG summit sporting was $3,400 shipped to my FFL. Just wanted to give you info in case someone tries to overcharge you.
- Dec 27, 2012
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You currently have a very nice gun especially for someone who anticipates shooting clays 12x a year. I can’t see stretching all the way to a CG for a casual recreational shooter. Honestly I think you’re overgunned already.
dreadpirate
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Thanks, that's much more realistic.
fabsroman
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How much you spend on a gun is all about budget. Nowadays, I am lucky if I get out and shoot clays twice a year. However, when I bought my 682 Super Trap back in 1994, I was shooting trap 3 times a week and going through 20 boxes of shells a week. When I bought my 682 Gold E back in 2001, I was shooting a heck of a lot too. Not 3 times a week, but at least 20 times a year while spending an entire day at the range each time. I still own both guns. Think I have around $3,500 into each of them. If I had more money back then I would have been better served by buying a DT-10. Then again, both of my 682 guns are still going strong and they will both outlive me. Heck, for the last decade I have been mostly using my 391 for skeet and sporting clays and only using the 682 at trap.
End of the day, the buy once, cry once thing applies to a degree.
Yeah, I could buy a NFA full auto M-16, but I would shoot that even less than I shoot my shotguns for clays and hunting nowadays. Full auto is sexy and all, but when would any of us realistically even use full auto. Even in a SHTF scenario, you wouldn't use a full auto for fear of running out of ammo. You would need a zombie apocalypse, civil war, or national invasion for full auto to be useful.
Buy whatever you can afford and that you feel good about buying. For me, the minimum would be the new Beretta 692 since it has replaceable hinge pins if you ever really, really, really get into the sport. At 12x of clay shooting a year, you are highly unlikely to wear out the hinge pins on a 686. The 687 might even have replaceable hinge pins. A used 682 will also serve you just fine for the rest of your life, as would a Caesar Guerini or a Browning (Yuck).
Mike OTDP
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Pro tip from a subgun owner: Have a place where you can definitely shoot the thing before you spend a penny on one. There are very few ranges that do.
These guys are still fitting guns locally here in Maryland even though they have closed their brick and mortar location:
http://www.onlinebarts.com/
http://www.onlinebarts.com/
Missed your post before I posted their online address.
dreadpirate
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I am curious; I see shooters here who have said a Browning fits them but not a Beretta and vice versa. Has anyone ever tried a Caesar Guerini that would not fit them??
One of the reason I bought the used CG was that it fit me pretty well. It also has an adjustable comb for height and laterally and an adjustable recoil pad. The comb I have not adjusted. The recoil pad I have adjusted to have the barrels plumb when shouldered. The other selling point for the used CG was the one free "pit stop". I did use the pit stop and they replaced a long list of worn items, feels like a new gun. I also thought that if I wanted to sell it these same items for adjust-ability would make for additional potential buyers.
Maybe this has been covered, are you comfortable with your stance and gun mount?
Working at PG T&S, I get to see a LOT of messed up stances and mounts; I spend most of my day coaching new and new'ish shooters into the right neighborhood of both. Incredible how many people try to shoot right handed and yet try to line up their left eye with with the rib of the gun.
Maybe this has been covered, are you comfortable with your stance and gun mount?
Working at PG T&S, I get to see a LOT of messed up stances and mounts; I spend most of my day coaching new and new'ish shooters into the right neighborhood of both. Incredible how many people try to shoot right handed and yet try to line up their left eye with with the rib of the gun.
Not when you can get a free fitting from CG in Cambridge, MD.
Sorry...had to chime in.
I don’t work for CG although I wish I did. Having said that, it’s worth mentioning in this thread that if you buy from an elite dealer, you get lifetime pit stops. Just wanted to add that bit of info.
Cool, didn't know that. I figure I'm good for 200k to 300k rounds before another pit stop
About 3000 into that since last pit stop.
Aamdskeetshooter
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The free fitting available from Caesar Guerini is worth the increase in cost of the CG. But a new CG will be out of your price range. The likelihood of a gun fitting you out of the box is slim. I feel every target gun should have an adjustable comb and butt plate if the stock is not custom. The second best option is Etchens. They have years and years of experience fitting these guns to people. I would recommend them over Barts. I agree with Fabs I recommend the Beretta over the Browning due to the design, the reliability, the longevity, availability of stocks, barrels and parts. Browning is notorious for taking a long time handling a warranty issue. Coleguns in FL and ME does warranty work for Beretta. They’re the go to people in the country for work on Berettas.
Good point there. Lifetime pit stops are worth good money to those planning on keeping the guns forever.
Just to add to the CG train. This is a pic of my CG next to my beretta A400 smurf gun. My son has taken over the beretta somehow. Lol.
fabsroman
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Good point there. Lifetime pit stops are worth good money to those planning on keeping the guns forever.
Just to add to the CG train. This is a pic of my CG next to my beretta A400 smurf gun. My son has taken over the beretta somehow. Lol.
Not only do you have to plan on keeping the gun a lifetime, but you have to plan on shooting a crapton of shells out of it to have things wear out on these high end o/u guns.
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