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Old January 30th, 2019, 06:41 PM #51
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fabro, you're good with a 20'er, now fab up your trotline system. I'd use collapsible traps as well.
Would you use collapsible traps at the same time you are using a trot line? Seems like life would be difficult trying to put both out. Guess I could deploy the collapsible traps first and then the trot line and alternate between pulling the two of them up.

The hard part about all of this is learning how to do it. Granted, YouTube helps, but still not the same as learning from somebody first hand.
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Old January 30th, 2019, 06:41 PM #52
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Here is my advice from a Chesapeake Bay mariner.

Best to set your lines far away from navigable inlets and travel lanes. Also for floats, trying to use something large enough to be seen. Needs to be larger than an apple...... Grapefruit sized or larger... And for the love of God DON'T paint them BLACK!
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Old January 31st, 2019, 09:43 AM #53
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Would you use collapsible traps at the same time you are using a trot line? Seems like life would be difficult trying to put both out. Guess I could deploy the collapsible traps first and then the trot line and alternate between pulling the two of them up.

The hard part about all of this is learning how to do it. Granted, YouTube helps, but still not the same as learning from somebody first hand.
I usually put out 1200' trotline and on my ride back to run it again drop 30 traps for the return trip. More gear more fun.
Did this running solo one time and it was a lot of work and not much fun.
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Old January 31st, 2019, 09:51 AM #54
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^On that topic, in Beautiful Swimmers there is an excellent chapter when the author goes trot lining with an old timer in the creeks and bays off Kent Island. When setting the trot line, he says the old man named Lester Lee kept putting a pole in the water to try to set it right on the shelf from where the depth was 6 feet. I couldn't quite tell if he was trying to put it in the deeper part of the drop off or just before the drop off (i.e. where it goes from 4 feet to 6 feet and he sets it on the deeper ground, or where it goes from 6 feet to 8 feet and he sets it on the higher ground).

Can anyone provide a little more insight on this? I also got the impression that he was setting maybe 50 yards offshore where the first dropoff is located and not out in on the edge of the deeper shipping channel.

Lester Lee's chapter is also sort of jokingly titled Chicken Neckers because apparently Lester thought trot lining with chicken necks wasn't terribly effective and was the mark of the amateur hobbyists. Lester preferred to use eels. ...I don't even know if eel as bait is evailable. When the book was written in 1975 it sounded like the supply was almost gone then since people had started eating them. I catch eels by mistake while cat fishing pretty regularly (and hate getting those bastards off my hook). What bait do most people swear by these days? Razor clams? Chicken? Bull lips?
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I use eels. I have a single eel trap on my pier, I generally catch an eel or two every two days. With the limited amount of trot lining I do anymore that is enough to keep my line baited.
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Would you use collapsible traps at the same time you are using a trot line? Seems like life would be difficult trying to put both out. Guess I could deploy the collapsible traps first and then the trot line and alternate between pulling the two of them up.

The hard part about all of this is learning how to do it. Granted, YouTube helps, but still not the same as learning from somebody first hand.
Yes alternate between the two. Sometimes the pots will be running and the trotline will not and vice versa. Also since the pots are easier to move locations, you can use them to scout other areas if you want to move your trotline since it take a lot more work to move.
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What is this prop stick that was mentioned earlier?

Is that a different term for the chock?(what the line runs through.)
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What is this prop stick that was mentioned earlier?

Is that a different term for the chock?(what the line runs through.)
Yes. Majority of them are done with 1.5 or 2" PVC pipe/fittings.
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Yes. Majority of them are done with 1.5 or 2" PVC pipe/fittings.
Got it, thanks. Never heard that before.

Thats sometimes the hardest thing to get right. If you're lucky enough to be able to rig it for some vertical travel it can help for different water conditions or how much free board you have that day. Especially in a small craft or aluminum skiff.
The problem is having it firmly attached and stable but easy to remove when you want to use the boat for something else.

Have somebody make you a net with stainless steel hoops and bolt it to the pole if you plan to use it often. It's worth the effort. We always chunk some traps over on both sides of the lay, and don't forget cold beverages and a hat.
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Mine spins off (threaded pipe) but I like the ramp with flap style better than mine.

One thing to note, the more "whip" you cause the more mud that'll sling depending on the speed you are running the line at.

My boat and Dipper/mate can get fairly muddy due to just having a U shaped pipe.
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