HB786/SB737 RIFLE & SHOTGUN SENATE TODAY 4/5 11AM

fabsroman · Apr 5, 2019

danb said:
If you are caught committing a crime with the illegally transferred rifle you got from me "he stole it." Thats my story and I am sticking to it.

If she were that accomplished she would not have been caught twice on camera.

Yeah, hard to say "he stole it" when there is a bill of sale involved.

Next thing you know, they are going to make it a crime not to report your stolen long guns within 3 days of finding out they are stolen. Great job, just giving them more and more ideas.

What was she lying about and why couldn't a conservative delegate set her straight? Was this when the bill sponsor is only allowed to speak?

fidelity · Apr 5, 2019

danb said:
If you are caught committing a crime with the illegally transferred rifle you got from me "he stole it." Thats my story and I am sticking to it.

If she were that accomplished she would not have been caught twice on camera.

This stealing loophole is the kind of stuff that Hogan loves roasting the MGA on. Don't think that he will veto this bill, but if he did, it would be one of his talking points.

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PowPow · Apr 5, 2019

Well, the House will have another chance to work on it some more. Maybe they can "improve" it to death.

fabsroman · Apr 5, 2019

PowPow said:
Well, the House will have another chance to work on it some more. Maybe they can "improve" it to death.

Yep, tell them to take their time and get it right, because haste makes waste. Better to revisit it next year, than pass some garbage this year just for the sake of saying they passed something.

PowPow · Apr 5, 2019

fabsroman said:
Yep, tell them to take their time and get it right, because haste makes waste. ~~Better to revisit it next year, than pass some garbage this year just for the sake of saying they passed something.~~

I'd be okay with just this.

Abacab · Apr 5, 2019

danb said:
I got just the thing for her.

Fat Larry jokes are a bridge too far....but this? Lol

rseymorejr · Apr 5, 2019

fabsroman said:
Tell me where you would go and buy a gun off the black market should you end up being prohibited? Requiring a UBC makes it virtually impossible for a shady buyer to pull the wool over a law abiding seller's eyes. Supply and demand would make the purchase of black market guns even more expensive.

How many gun owners in Maryland really do any serious due diligence before selling a firearm FTF?

I don't travel in those circles but I can tell you that there's a thriving illegal gun market in Baltimore City and the felons don't seem to have any trouble getting supplied, just like illegal drugs.

If they are going to pass this shit they should allow us to go to an MSP barracks , pay $10 and have them run the check while we wait. If I sell a rifle to a friend that I've known for 45 years why should we have to find an FFL that's willing to do this and pay whatever fee they decide to charge. Meanwhile the only amendment that was actually a good addition, making theft of a firearm a felony, was shot down. That right there tells you what their objective is.

F them, every single one of them

PowPow · Apr 5, 2019

Abacab said:
Fat Larry jokes are a bridge too far....but this? Lol

Larry's time has not yet come in this particular thread. If his time does arrive, hopefully we will be posting something like this at that time:

BeoBill · Apr 5, 2019

rseymorejr said:
I do have a problem with the state requiring it. If someone is shady they'll just buy from other shady people (like they do now) all this will do is add expense and aggravation for people who will try and follow this law.

That's the whole point!!!!!

Doctor_M · Apr 5, 2019

I'm feeling strangely liberated... don't know why.

BeoBill · Apr 5, 2019

fabsroman said:
Yep, tell them to take their time and get it right, because haste makes waste. Better to revisit it next year, than pass some garbage this year just for the sake of saying they passed something.

You mean like FSA13?

PowPow · Apr 5, 2019

Doctor_M said:
I'm feeling strangely liberated... don't know why.

Might it involve 3 letters of the alphabet that form a 4 letter acronym? If so, that is a very liberating feeling I must say!

Doctor_M · Apr 5, 2019

PowPow said:
Might it involve 3 letters of the alphabet that form a 4 letter acronym? If so, that is a very liberating feeling I must say!

Very astute, my good, sir.

Jimboy · Apr 5, 2019

Doctor_M said:
Very astute, my good, sir.

Yes WWNC feels good.

And another 3 letter 4 character acronym that comes to mind is MAGA!

Abacab · Apr 5, 2019

Third Reader posted.

From my quick scan, bill criminalizes SALES of guns without a NICS check. It specifically stripped away the verb TRANSFER.

Also includes a weird section about exempting people who have a sincerely held religious belief about their photograph not being taken and gives them another way to do it.

The good news is, this bill was so unpopular that they had to water it down to this to get it passed. The bad news is I suspect this makes it more palatable to Larry.

Bertfish · Apr 5, 2019

Wonder what the state definition of SALE is. All transfers are now gifts?

govwontletmebuycoolguns · Apr 5, 2019

Another piece of infringement is another piece of infringement.

buellsfurn · Apr 5, 2019

Abacab said:
Third Reader posted.

From my quick scan, bill criminalizes SALES of guns without a NICS check. It specifically stripped away the verb TRANSFER.

Also includes a weird section about exempting people who have a sincerely held religious belief about their photograph not being taken and gives them another way to do it.

The good news is, this bill was so unpopular that they had to water it down to this to get it passed. The bad news is I suspect this makes it more palatable to Larry.

Amish ?

MJD438 · Apr 5, 2019

buellsfurn said:
Amish ?

Yes, Amish communities in Southern Maryland were the stated reason for the amendment.

rseymorejr · Apr 5, 2019

Abacab said:
Third Reader posted.

From my quick scan, bill criminalizes SALES of guns without a NICS check. It specifically stripped away the verb TRANSFER.

Also includes a weird section about exempting people who have a sincerely held religious belief about their photograph not being taken and gives them another way to do it.

The good news is, this bill was so unpopular that they had to water it down to this to get it passed. The bad news is I suspect this makes it more palatable to Larry.

A NICS check with a photograph? What's that all about?

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