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  • zoostation

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    At least as far as crime. An interesting graphic I ran across.

    Leftist grandmoms stomp their little cankles and demand lots of meaningless and spiteful Action, but could give a shit about the urban poor really affected by crime. They'd much rather badger the harmless gun cabinets of the law-abiding than take on anything even a little bit difficult like the true causes of crime and the real solutions.
     

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    Derek1320

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    Something's odd with that.

    StLouis and N'awlins should be out near the left end, too.

    You're right. Breitbart published a list last month and St. Louis was 61 per 100k. I remember seeing a similar list last year with STL edging us out as well. Must just be the sample.

    We still whoop the majority of Latin America's ass though. I was listening to a recent Joe Rogan podcast where he talked with a narco-journalist who covered Mexico. They were referencing the obscene 100-200 murders per 100,000 in many of Mexico's worst areas but when Joe asked about the USA guess which city the guy referenced first...
     

    Mr H

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    You're right. Breitbart published a list last month and St. Louis was 61 per 100k. I remember seeing a similar list last year with STL edging us out as well. Must just be the sample.

    We still whoop the majority of Latin America's ass though. I was listening to a recent Joe Rogan podcast where he talked with a narco-journalist who covered Mexico. They were referencing the obscene 100-200 murders per 100,000 in many of Mexico's worst areas but when Joe asked about the USA guess which city the guy referenced first...

    I guess if you put too many bad cities on one side of the chart, it might tip over...
     

    Glaron

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    Venezuela the Socialist Utopia

    However Maduro clung to power and socialist rule continues in the nation amid soaring hyper inflation that is making many of Caracas' hardened criminals consider leaving the country.

    'These days, nobody is doing well - not honest citizens who produce wealth or the criminals who prey on them,' he said.

    Embrace Socialism:rolleyes::innocent0
     

    traveller

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    Nov 26, 2010
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    At least as far as crime. An interesting graphic I ran across.

    Leftist grandmoms stomp their little cankles and demand lots of meaningless and spiteful Action, but could give a shit about the urban poor really affected by crime. They'd much rather badger the harmless gun cabinets of the law-abiding than take on anything even a little bit difficult like the true causes of crime and the real solutions.

    My takeaway from this graph is that San Diego, the only major city with a republican mayor, is one of the few cities with a homicide rate that fits in with a developed nation (El Paso has a nonpartisan mayorship).
     

    traveller

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    Something's odd with that.

    StLouis and N'awlins should be out near the left end, too.

    They have fallen off the left end of the chart :innocent0





    But yeah, odd that they are missing. But then, St Louis independent city is only 319k, and New Orleans at 343k so it may be the class 1 city cutoff of 500k that does it.
     

    Biggfoot44

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    But any such types of comparisons fall off into the weeds of statistics and geography .

    If going by municipal boundaries , some cities have city limits that are huge , taking in lots of square miles with very different neighborhoods , some " defacto cities " are split over multiple civil subdivisions . Baltimore happens to have the convergence of the high crime 'hoods being in the city limits , and the 2/3 of the metro area population in the surrounding jurisdictions is much more statistically average . If you hypothetically drew a line within Chicago that contained 600k population center around South Side, it would look different .


    Totally spitballing , to get an actual comparison of what we're trying to compare , you would look at rates for contiguous zip codes , with combined population of certain threshold , maybe in 50-100k population range .
     

    traveller

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    But any such types of comparisons fall off into the weeds of statistics and geography .

    If going by municipal boundaries , some cities have city limits that are huge , taking in lots of square miles with very different neighborhoods , some " defacto cities " are split over multiple civil subdivisions . Baltimore happens to have the convergence of the high crime 'hoods being in the city limits , and the 2/3 of the metro area population in the surrounding jurisdictions is much more statistically average . If you hypothetically drew a line within Chicago that contained 600k population center around South Side, it would look different .


    Totally spitballing , to get an actual comparison of what we're trying to compare , you would look at rates for contiguous zip codes , with combined population of certain threshold , maybe in 50-100k population range .

    I did that exercise for Baltimore some years ago. If you limit the analysis to the police precincts that see most of the trouble, the odds for a given young man to make it past 30 are measurably decreased. It's truly medieval.

    Even if you stick all of Baltimore county into the analysis, the numbers are still third world level shitty. It's like sewage, you can't really make it cleaner by diluting it with rainwater.
     

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