dancnr
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Its not too bad, the Cmp sells Greek surplus that runs well in a Garand, and several online retailers carry the specific Garand loads.
Thinking about a Garand
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Machodoc
Old Guy
And then there's always the option of reloading. Any ammo for the Garand is going to be expensive now, but there's still decent surplus available that has good reloadable casings. (Shoot the surplus and save the brass.) New 30-06 casings are also available. 150gr bullets of the correct type are readily available from the major manufacturers, and IMR 4895 powder isn't hard to find--and it's ideal for the Garand.
[Edit added: The casings on the Greek surplus ammo that's now available from CMP have a good reputation for being well made and good for reloading. As with any military ammo, the primers pockets will need to be swaged or reamed after the originals are removed. I've seen one report where a casing from Greek surplus was cut too long, but that seems to be an isolated--or rare--instance, and using a casing gauge is always a good idea with any reloads.]
You can also install an adjustable gas plug that allows use of modern hunting ammo. Can't use the adjustable plug in a CMP match though. Switching them only takes a minute.
AIM has this new load from Prvi. Looks good.
AIM has this new load from Prvi. Looks good.
4MDGunRights
Gun Totin' Member
A .308 Garand may be used in certain CMP matches, but not the majority of them. Here is a link to the CMP Rule Book http://www.odcmp.com/Competitions/Rulebook.pdf . Everyone has their own reasons for wanting their Garand a certain way; I like mine in the .308 configuration because I have a number of other military rifles that are in .308 or 7.62x51 NATO and I am set up to reload for those already. Do a google search for .308 vs .30/06 and read up on why some prefer .308 over .30/06.
.308 Garands are great. If you get sick of yours, you can give it to me.
One little advantage: The Garand provides barely enough room to load a clip. It even one cartridge is not all the way back in the clip, the nose of the bullet may prevent loading. I have had that happen before, most recently during the rapid fire stage of a match last spring. I had another clip handy, and grabbed that one, but I thought, "If this were a .308, there would be plenty of extra space for a sloppy clip."
You'll see some GI stocks with little dent patterns from soldiers banging the clips against the stock to seat the rounds in the clip.
One little advantage: The Garand provides barely enough room to load a clip. It even one cartridge is not all the way back in the clip, the nose of the bullet may prevent loading. I have had that happen before, most recently during the rapid fire stage of a match last spring. I had another clip handy, and grabbed that one, but I thought, "If this were a .308, there would be plenty of extra space for a sloppy clip."
You'll see some GI stocks with little dent patterns from soldiers banging the clips against the stock to seat the rounds in the clip.
4MDGunRights
Gun Totin' Member
Thanks for your offer, Threeband, but it will be a long while before I get sick of it.
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I'll keep you at the top of the list of those willing to help me out and remove the burden from my arms...
I'll keep you at the top of the list of those willing to help me out and remove the burden from my arms...
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4MDGunRights
Gun Totin' Member
throw in a roll of duct tape???
Machodoc
Old Guy
That's pretty crude ... but ingenious.
Oh the disrespect!
OK, I'll swap you the Ishapore for your .308 Special, a case of ammo, and a roll of duct tape.
Don't want to totally derail the thread, but
Wire-Wrapped SMLEs:
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?243836-Help-identify-my-new-wire-wrapped-Enfield
Photos:
http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=1316499&postcount=25
And to get back on track, here are my Correct Grade (with sling) And my Service Grade. I refinished the replacement birch stock, which has a lot of fancy flame.
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Machodoc
Old Guy
The adjustable gas plugs are about 30-35 dollars, plus postage. Here's one source: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/77...s-plug-with-wrench-m1-garand-steel-parkerized Midway claims: "Service rifle legal! Has the same appearance and configuration as original; CMP 4th Edition #4-13-2-b."
I don't have one, because I only shoot military or re-loads that are to conservative specs, but it's on my shopping list for sometime before too long. It might end up being a handy accessory one day, and stuff like that seems to disappear from the market without warning.
ShallNotInfringe
Lil Firecracker
- Feb 17, 2013
- 8,554
Scouring threads to find the answer and this looks like the most applicable, since it went into ammo for the M1 Garand...
Bought a H&R M1 Garand recently and the seller told me I should inquire here on MDS as to which ammo to use.
I bought some ammo prior to pickup and would like to ask the experts for their opinion on using it.
Hornady brand, Match, 30-06 M1 Garand, 168 gr A-MAX.
Am not into reloading (yet). Should I save the shells if these are acceptable for use?
Bought a H&R M1 Garand recently and the seller told me I should inquire here on MDS as to which ammo to use.
I bought some ammo prior to pickup and would like to ask the experts for their opinion on using it.
Hornady brand, Match, 30-06 M1 Garand, 168 gr A-MAX.
Am not into reloading (yet). Should I save the shells if these are acceptable for use?
Augie
Ultimate Member
If you buy a service grade you will be good to go, never got one that did not have a decent barrel. If you want new wood request it on a sticky on the order form and most likely you will get it. I prefer original wood with character.
If you want one to put new wood on and re barrel don't waste your money on a service grade, get a field grade and save some money.
Ammo is no big deal, commercial loadings are available for the Garand from several different manufacturers. I reload or use Greek surplus.
Honda53s, thanks for the recommendation, I'm out of any Garands to sell right now,kept 6 of my best.
ShallNotinfringe, that ammo is fine if it says Garand, the brass is good, save it. It should be an accurate load.
Built this one from a CMP barreled receiver, came with a brand new 50's barrel on an early WW2 receiver.
If you want one to put new wood on and re barrel don't waste your money on a service grade, get a field grade and save some money.
Ammo is no big deal, commercial loadings are available for the Garand from several different manufacturers. I reload or use Greek surplus.
Honda53s, thanks for the recommendation, I'm out of any Garands to sell right now,kept 6 of my best.
ShallNotinfringe, that ammo is fine if it says Garand, the brass is good, save it. It should be an accurate load.
Built this one from a CMP barreled receiver, came with a brand new 50's barrel on an early WW2 receiver.
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My HRA loves that stuff. I've been told the brass is a little soft and doesn't last the longest, but it works. Keep an eye on midway they sell the hornady blems some times.
Markp
Ultimate Member
- Dec 22, 2008
- 9,392
I have to admit, I requested "good shooters" for HRA's when I ordered last year (and it seems like they are better this year). I got two rifles with muzzles running 1 and 2, and the throats were 2 and 3 respectively. Metal was excellent, op-rods were good to go. I paid $75 each to have the triggers done and set to 4.5# (CMP legal), they break smooth and clean.
They came in new stocks, which I didn't mind. I wanted "good shooters". I got good shooters. I fired both and both shot smoothly and accurately, but I don't have any precise numbers to share.
Mark
DCutdSE
Rebel Scum
- Jan 2, 2009
- 81
Regarding ammo, I shot modern .30-06 and it would cause the clip to eject after 2-4 shots. I changed the clip latch and springs before I got smart and went back to Greek M2 ball. No problems since and I'll be sticking to the surplus stuff. It is a mix master that I built myself from collected parts and is solely for tinkering, shooting and enjoyment.
stu929
M1 Addict
HXP is so affordable and reloadable I don't know why people buy anything else!
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