Sort of inherited handgun.

Naptown52 · Dec 16, 2013

My Grandfather passed about 4 or 5 years ago and left behind a Rugger 9mm handgun. While he didn't will it to anyone specifically, my Dad has been holding on to it since then where it has sat on a shelf in the garage and collected dust (Its been in a case so no dust has actually gotten into the gun itself for the record). I just got my HQL in the mail and intend to claim the handgun as my own. The MD gun laws are quite confusing, so Im wondering if anyone can tell me where I need to go from here to make the gun legitimately mine.

Mooseman · Dec 16, 2013

I am not a lawyer. To the best of my knowledge, the executor of your grandfathers estate could transfer this to you. This can be done at either an MSP barracks or a Maryland FFL.

Topher · Dec 16, 2013

Take the mag out before you transfer it.

esqappellate · Dec 16, 2013

Naptown52 said:
My Grandfather passed about 4 or 5 years ago and left behind a Rugger 9mm handgun. While he didn't will it to anyone specifically, my Dad has been holding on to it since then where it has sat on a shelf in the garage and collected dust (Its been in a case so no dust has actually gotten into the gun itself for the record). I just got my HQL in the mail and intend to claim the handgun as my own. The MD gun laws are quite confusing, so Im wondering if anyone can tell me where I need to go from here to make the gun legitimately mine.

An heir to an inherited regulated firearm must fill out Form 77R. See PS Article 5-102. If it were me, I would do so at a FFL or State Police barracks (DON'T take the gun into the barracks -- call ahead of time, tell them that you are coming and arrange a time. When you get there, go inside WITHOUT the gun and ask for help -- a trooper will come outside and get it from your vehicle and take it inside).

See PS Article 5-102:

This subtitle does not apply to:
* * *
(8) the receipt of a regulated firearm by inheritance, if the heir forwards to the Secretary a completed application to purchase or transfer that regulated firearm; or

JohnnyE · Dec 16, 2013

Mooseman said:
I am not a lawyer. To the best of my knowledge, the executor of your grandfathers estate could transfer this to you. This can be done at either an MSP barracks or a Maryland FFL.

If the grandfather died 4-5 years ago, I am guessing the estate has long been closed and the executor is no longer the executor. His/her duties are over. Ask an attorney.

Pinecone · Dec 16, 2013

esqappellate said:
An heir to an inherited regulated firearm must fill out Form 77R. See PS Article 5-102. If it were me, I would do so at a FFL or State Police barracks (DON'T take the gun into the barracks -- call ahead of time, tell them that you are coming and arrange a time. When you get there, go inside WITHOUT the gun and ask for help -- a trooper will come outside and get it from your vehicle and take it inside).

See PS Article 5-102:

This subtitle does not apply to:
* * *
(8) the receipt of a regulated firearm by inheritance, if the heir forwards to the Secretary a completed application to purchase or transfer that regulated firearm; or

No need to go to MSP barracks. File out Form 77R and forward it to the licensing bureau.

byf43 · Dec 16, 2013

Topher said:
Take the mag out before you transfer it.

Not only that, remove any ammunition from the magazine(s) before you place the firearm..... in the enclosed case..... in the trunk of your car.

Basically, IF you go to MSP Barracks, leave the magazine and ammo at home!!!!!!!

tony b · Dec 16, 2013

may not have been registered in the past. might just be able to register through MSP. But like others have said call ahead.

Naptown52 · Dec 16, 2013

byf43 said:
Not only that, remove any ammunition from the magazine(s) before you place the firearm..... in the enclosed case..... in the trunk of your car.

Basically, IF you go to MSP Barracks, leave the magazine and ammo at home!!!!!!!

10-4. I learned the rules of transporting a gun in my HQL class. I called the Liscensing division of the MD state police. After explaining my situation and being transferred probbably 4 to 5 times, they advised me to come to a barracks with the gun (unloaded, in a case, and leave any ammo at home) and my Gradfathers death certificate (which I hope one of my parents saved) and they would have me fill out a form to transfer it to me. Im off work this Wednesday, so I think Im going to give it a go.

Andybrown · Dec 16, 2013

Good Grief! Anything else he has to do???

ddeanjohnson · Dec 16, 2013

Andybrown said:
Good Grief! Anything else he has to do???

It would be advisable for him to locate the serial number on the handgun ahead of time. If this requires removal of the grips, then keep the grips off to save the hassle of removing them again at the barracks, because the trooper has to check the serial number. Also, he should establish ahead of time whether or not the firearm was manufactured later than 1984, and if so, make sure that the model is listed on the Maryland Handgun Roster, because this is one of the questions on the 77R transfer form.

NateIU10 · Dec 16, 2013

ddeanjohnson said:
It would be advisable for him to locate the serial number on the handgun ahead of time. If this requires removal of the grips, then keep the grips off to save the hassle of removing them again at the barracks, because the trooper has to check the serial number. Also, he should establish ahead of time whether or not the firearm was manufactured later than 1984, and if so, make sure that the model is listed on the Maryland Handgun Roster, because this is one of the questions on the 77R transfer form.

If it is a transfer via inheritance, there is no need to take the gun to msp. Op just needs to get a 77r and mail it to msp. It also does not have to be on the roster, as this is not a sale.

StantonCree · Dec 16, 2013

Andybrown said:
Good Grief! Anything else he has to do???

Yeah show me what a rugger 9mm is

IjustCantAim · Dec 16, 2013

Leave your dog at home!

ccarson · Dec 16, 2013

IjustCantAim said:
Leave your dog at home!

esqappellate · Dec 17, 2013

mpdc4511 said:
Yeah show me what a rugger 9mm is

It is the Australian model.

Numidian · Dec 17, 2013

I would just delete this thread...

GUNFUN · Dec 18, 2013

Numidian said:
I would just delete this thread...

What he said.

I see nothing, I hear nothing...

Naptown52 · Dec 19, 2013

mpdc4511 said:
Yeah show me what a rugger 9mm is

Yea... Im a noob.

Update. I tried looking around my parents house for my Grandfathers death certificate, but they have legal documents/files all over the damn house. Its like trying to find a needle in a haystack. I gave up after about an hour. Very frustrating. I cant help but feel like this process would be significantly easier in another state.

JettaRed · Dec 20, 2013

Naptown52 said:
Yea... Im a noob.

Update. I tried looking around my parents house for my Grandfathers death certificate, but they have legal documents/files all over the damn house. Its like trying to find a needle in a haystack. I gave up after about an hour. Very frustrating. I cant help but feel like this process would be significantly easier in another state.

Where did your grandfather die? Google the process for getting a copy of his death certificate in that state.

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