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Old September 18th, 2018, 01:29 PM #1
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HQL is saving lives, who knew?

Anybody else read Van Hollen's article in the Capital yesterday?
http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/g...916-story.html

He claims the HQL, which he calls a permit, has saved lives. I quote, "We have seen it. We have seen in the state of Maryland the permit to purchase law has saved lives."

Would love to see some proof of that. I thought the only purpose of the HQL was more money for the state and more difficulty for law abiding citizens to obtain handguns.
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Old September 18th, 2018, 01:33 PM #2
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He's so full of crap his eyes have turned brown.
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Old September 18th, 2018, 01:33 PM #3
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Anybody else read Van Hollen's article in the Capital yesterday?
http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/g...916-story.html

He claims the HQL, which he calls a permit, has saved lives. I quote, "We have seen it. We have seen in the state of Maryland the permit to purchase law has saved lives."

Would love to see some proof of that. I thought the only purpose of the HQL was more money for the state and more difficulty for law abiding citizens to obtain handguns.
This is were you hit him up with a FOIA request, if I was MSI!!!! Then watch him squirm!!!
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Old September 18th, 2018, 01:57 PM #4
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This is were you hit him up with a FOIA request, if I was MSI!!!! Then watch him squirm!!!

Van Hollen is full of it!
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Old September 18th, 2018, 02:02 PM #5
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"it is absolutely nuts that in some states you go to the gun shop and go through a background check, but if you go to the gun show you don’t"


Where does he get this false information????
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That's actually not completely false, just very misleading regarding the famous "Gun Show Loophole" that the anti-2As want to use to force a registry of long guns.

In some states private, face to face sale of handguns is legal with no background check. The same laws in those states apply to private sales at gun shows, out in the parking lot, or over your kitchen table. What the other side never mentions is that the vast majority of sales at gun shows are done by FFLs who are required by law to do the same background check as if the sale took place at their brick and mortar store.

And, yes Van Hollowhead is "absolutely nuts" as per his quote.
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Old September 18th, 2018, 03:48 PM #7
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The MD "Firearm Death Rate" in 2013 was 9.3/100000

In 2016 it was 11.9/100000

Given the increase in murder rate in Baltimore (which I'm sure drives the state rate), I can't imagine it's any better for 2017.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firear...tates_by_state
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The MD "Firearm Death Rate in 2013 was 9.3/100000

In 2016 it was 11.9/100000

Given the increase in murder rate in Baltimore (which I'm sure drives the state rate), I can't imagine it's any better for 2017.
That is why I think we need to call his bluff with a FOIA request.
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That is why I think we need to call his bluff with a FOIA request.
FOIA doesn't apply to Congress. But if it did, any individual could make a FOIA request. https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//nsa/foia/guide.html

Why not send him a letter with your questions and concerns?
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That is why I think we need to call his bluff with a FOIA request.
You're wasting your money and time. He doesn't care. He uses Everytown and The Space Cadet stats, or makes stuff up on the spot. MOCOs Perfumed Pashas deserve him. It's a shame he's able to wreak havoc at the national level.
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