Roni Micro with Stabilizer Brace No Bueno?

IDFInfantry · Oct 19, 2016

I went ahead and pre-ordered one of these bad boys for a Glock 19.
https://usa.caagearup.com/micro-roni-stabilizer
This model does not have a stock but the Stabilizing Brace approved by the ATF. No Tax Stamp required. However CAA cancelled my order and stated to me that this item is not legal for shipment to Maryland. Does anyone know why that would be? What gives? These even specify on their website that this is a non-nfa item.

StantonCree · Oct 19, 2016

Under 29?

For the record if the plan was to suppress the 19 these things suck.....at least the gen1 did

IDFInfantry · Oct 19, 2016

A more accurate image of what actually is being shipped out. Notice the 45 degree angle of the grip and no mag caddy to comply with the ATF.

IDFInfantry · Oct 19, 2016

mpdc4511 said:
Under 29?

For the record if the plan was to suppress the 19 these things suck.....at least the gen1 did

Handguns have an overall length requirement of 29" ????
That's about the funniest thing I have heard this month.

:lol2:

StantonCree · Oct 19, 2016

IDFInfantry said:
Handguns have an overall length requirement of 29" ????
That's about the funniest thing I have heard this month.

I guess I should have paid attention to the brace........The previous ones I have used have been fixed

IDFInfantry · Oct 19, 2016

Several companies have these non-nfa carbine kits. The KPOS Pathfinder is another one which is pretty good. There is also the Hera Arms Triarii.
Figured I'd try a different one and do a review but they won't ship it. I'll get it one way or another. :lol:

engineerbrian · Oct 19, 2016

Its a cool set up for sure. When i shot one a while back we were plinking 6" steel plates at 100 yards with no problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SnDblNRdNU

[YT]3SnDblNRdNU[/YT]

Ostrich · Apr 9, 2019

Did you end up figuring out a way to get the micro roni in MD? If not did you find a simular one?

Ostrich · Apr 9, 2019

Another question, being that its just an attachment can I hypothetically buy it in say SC? Asking for a friend...hypothetically.

Ammo Jon · Apr 9, 2019

It’s a non NFA item with brace. I actually have a new one for sale for the 20/21.

Ostrich · Apr 9, 2019

Im sorry can you talk to me like im stupid. Whats NFA? And whats the difference?

Ammo Jon · Apr 10, 2019

Ostrich said:
Im sorry can you talk to me like im stupid. Whats NFA? And whats the difference?

https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/134479?hl=en

Rab1515 · Apr 10, 2019

Ostrich said:
Im sorry can you talk to me like im stupid. Whats NFA? And whats the difference?

If you don't know what NFA is, you best do some research before getting one, but yes you can get one. These items are legal, but right on the edge, and something as simple as adding a forward grip can get serious jail time. Start by reading about the National Firearm Act.

Ammo Jon · Apr 10, 2019

Rab1515 said:
If you don't know what NFA is, you best do some research before getting one, but yes you can get one. These items are legal, but right on the edge, and something as simple as adding a forward grip can get serious jail time. Start by reading about the National Firearm Act.

“Simple” graphic

tmo8320 · Apr 10, 2019

Ammo Jon said:
“Simple” graphic

That graphic is awesome!!

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fidelity · Apr 10, 2019

Ammo Jon said:
“Simple” graphic

Lol, actually quite useful.

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vgplayer · Apr 10, 2019

According to the FAQ on MSP Licensing Page https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/FAQs.aspx

Is it legal to purchase a Micro RONI in the State of Maryland

The device itself is not a firearm and so its sale would not be regulated by the Maryland State Police, however when a pistol is placed within the device frame, the weapon becomes a rifle (because the weapon is "designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder.") And if the overall length of the combination weapon is less than 29", the weapon is now a "copycat weapon" subject to the prohibitions against possessing an assault weapon under CR Title 4, Subtitle 3.

Now I believe the MSP incorrectly believes the only version available is one that has a stock. They also seem to do this with other long guns that have one SKU that has both a folding stock and flash hider, and then determine that all the SKUs of that firearm are banned.

IDFInfantry · Apr 10, 2019

I'll put in a little disclaimer. When I originally purchased the Roni with the brace, CAA contacted me and informed me that they would not ship it to Maryland citing some legal mumbo jumbo (probably from the frosh hole himself) that it's illegal for me to own in my state. There was a bit of back and forth but I had them call Maryland State Police and get confirmation that it indeed was ok to ship because the item had a brace not a stock on it. They shipped it out to me shortly after that!

md_al · Apr 17, 2019

16" barrel +arm brace = ?
eg. AR pistol- remove upper then attach a 16" .22 upper

Also Full auto lower (MG) + any upper = still a MG?

hermyjoe · Apr 17, 2019

Love the graphic...funny but helpful

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