Don't Do What I Did. Lesson Learned.

StickShaker · Oct 19, 2016

And to think, as youngsters my buddy and I used to successfully hitchhike in PG county carrying uncased long guns.

Moon · Oct 19, 2016

HordesOfKailas said:
Just because LEOs enforce the law doesn't mean they know the law. OC a firearm and see how long it takes to be arrested.

I would think knowing the law is a prerequisit for enforcing it.

Vic · Oct 19, 2016

I would of done it. Don't see the issue. Nice of the officer to ride you home.

highli99 · Oct 19, 2016

mterry said:
I would think knowing the law is a prerequisit for enforcing it.

That's never stopped Frosh

HordesOfKailas · Oct 19, 2016

highli99 said:
That's never stopped Frosh

And given that MSP seems confused about their own rules at times, I have a hard time believing every cop on the force understands the intricacies of firearms law in MD.

highli99 · Oct 19, 2016

HordesOfKailas said:
And given that MSP seems confused about their own rules at times, I have a hard time believing every cop on the force understands the intricacies of firearms law in MD.

I doubt there are any.

Muleskinner · Oct 19, 2016

Lightyear68 said:
I'll probably be called out for being stupid, but was I really stupid? Or did the lefties over-react and force the LEOs to intervene.

I'll begin by saying that the LEOs in this situation were professional, respectful, and helpful. I was grateful for their help.

After shooting at a local outdoor range, my truck fails to start. I eventually push the right wires to get it started but know that there is an electrical problem that needs to be fixed.

I drop my truck off at the local repair shop and ask for a ride home. The loaner is out and no staff available. None of my contacts can come pick me up.

I get impatient and decide to walk about 2 miles home along a 2-lane rural road with my unloaded shot gun in its case.

I get 500 yards down the road when two LEOs pull up to me to check out my situation.

They were professional and thorough, ran my ID, checked the credibility of my story, and gave me a ride home. No arrest or charge, but a friendly warning that some LEOs might have arrested me for carrying a weapon in public. My LEO friends question whether they could have arrested me for this, but either way it opened me up to being searched and ID checked.

Apparently somebody driving by saw something and said something.

So lesson learned. Maybe it was technically legal to carry the unloaded shotgun home secured in its case, but apparently it's frowned upon by many people.

Is there anybody out there that would have walked home like me, or am I alone on this one?

No one should be bowing to pressure from the left...That's how we got where we are...appeasement doesn't work...Take a stand, you did nothing wrong

Clif · Oct 19, 2016

A couple of years ago I bought a rifle from Atlantic Guns in Silver Spring. As I was writing the check, I asked the guy how I was going to get the gun to my car, several blocks away in a public lot. He looked out the door and said: " I'll give you 1 round".

Bertfish · Oct 19, 2016

HordesOfKailas said:
And given that MSP seems confused about their own rules at times, I have a hard time believing every cop on the force understands the intricacies of firearms law in MD.

No they do not.

Went to the MSP Barracks in North East prior to 10/13 to transfer two rifles from my Dad to myself.

First trooper I got was an unbelievable a&@hole. And I really mean that. He was condescending, ignorant of the law, and refused to even try and confirm the validity of what I was trying to do. I had the designated collector letter and everything. In his own words he "didn't give a s&@% what that letter said" and that MD said only one regulated firearm per month. I held my tongue.

He was replaced by a trooper moments later who was the total opposite. The guy had me bring the rifles in to the barracks to check the serial numbers and did every piece of paperwork without hesitation. He did ask for a copy of my DC letter cause he had never seen one before and just wanted to send it along with the application to avoid any issues.

But by all means, lets pass more stupid laws and regulations that the police cannot possibly commit to memory (we aren't computers after all) and then hope that they are enforced correctly.

rbird7282 · Oct 19, 2016

Bertfish said:
No they do not.

Went to the MSP Barracks in North East prior to 10/13 to transfer two rifles from my Dad to myself.

First trooper I got was an unbelievable a&@hole. And I really mean that. He was condescending, ignorant of the law, and refused to even try and confirm the validity of what I was trying to do. I had the designated collector letter and everything. In his own words he "didn't give a s&@% what that letter said" and that MD said only one regulated firearm per month. I held my tongue.

He was replaced by a trooper moments later who was the total opposite. The guy had me bring the rifles in to the barracks to check the serial numbers and did every piece of paperwork without hesitation. He did ask for a copy of my DC letter cause he had never seen one before and just wanted to send it along with the application to avoid any issues.

But by all means, lets pass more stupid laws and regulations that the police cannot possibly commit to memory (we aren't computers after all) and then hope that they are enforced correctly.

That's when you ask for a supervisor and file a complaint. There is no reason for a trooper to act like that.

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dist1646 · Oct 19, 2016

Once when I was visiting my grandmother in Tenn., I decided to walk over the hill to my uncles to do some target shooting. I put my S&W model 10 in the holster and wore it. It wasn't far but, about half way there, I was stopped by a police officer. he asked, "Where you headed?" I replied, "Over the hill to my uncles to do some target shooting."
He said, "Looks like a nice gun. Can I see it?" I said, "Sure." I took it out of the holster, opened the empty cylinder and handed it to him. He said, " Looks like you take really good care of it!" I said, " Thank you!". With that, he handed it back to me and said "Have a nice day and enjoy your practice." Then he drove off.

Mark75H · Oct 19, 2016

Lightyear68 said:
Apparently somebody driving by saw something and said something.

So lesson learned. Maybe it was technically legal to carry the unloaded shotgun home secured in its case, but apparently it's frowned upon by many people.

Is there anybody out there that would have walked home like me, or am I alone on this one?

Completely depends on the location and time of year context.

In western MD and on the Eastern Shore, outside of the biggest towns, no one would bat an eye, esp during the popular hunting seasons.

To be arrested, the arresting officer has to site some law, even if its just disturbing the peace; as some have pointed out above, there is NO law against long gun carry in MD, so they'd have to fabricate something.

In a perfect world, it would be easy and reasonable to expect a judge to agree that a CASED long gun being carefully carried would have no intent to be provocative. Sadly too many sorry butt liberals are now serving on Maryland's benches.

Qbeam · Oct 19, 2016

Just out of curiosity, what county was this in?

Q

RoadDawg · Oct 20, 2016

Lightyear68 said:
I'll probably be called out for being stupid, but was I really stupid? Or did the lefties over-react and force the LEOs to intervene.

I'll begin by saying that the LEOs in this situation were professional, respectful, and helpful. I was grateful for their help.

After shooting at a local outdoor range, my truck fails to start. I eventually push the right wires to get it started but know that there is an electrical problem that needs to be fixed.

I drop my truck off at the local repair shop and ask for a ride home. The loaner is out and no staff available. None of my contacts can come pick me up.

I get impatient and decide to walk about 2 miles home along a 2-lane rural road with my unloaded shot gun in its case.

I get 500 yards down the road when two LEOs pull up to me to check out my situation.

They were professional and thorough, ran my ID, checked the credibility of my story, and gave me a ride home. No arrest or charge, but a friendly warning that some LEOs might have arrested me for carrying a weapon in public. My LEO friends question whether they could have arrested me for this, but either way it opened me up to being searched and ID checked.

Apparently somebody driving by saw something and said something.

So lesson learned. Maybe it was technically legal to carry the unloaded shotgun home secured in its case, but apparently it's frowned upon by many people.

Is there anybody out there that would have walked home like me, or am I alone on this one?

YOU did nothing wrong...
The LEOs did nothing wrong...

The person calling in the complaint was simply concerned about a stranger walking down the road in their neighborhood, carrying a gun case.

You were vindicated by the investigation and found to be violating NO laws... AND... even got a free ride home for your troubles.

AND for those who want to biotch and name call the LEOs... Giving the OP a ride home was NOT the action of someone "being an ass". :sad20:

POP57 · Oct 20, 2016

Personally I think you did the responsible thing. Your only other option would have been to leave it with the truck...not a good idea. Kudos to the officers that gave you a lift.

d33rhunt3r · Oct 20, 2016

Clif said:
A couple of years ago I bought a rifle from Atlantic Guns in Silver Spring. As I was writing the check, I asked the guy how I was going to get the gun to my car, several blocks away in a public lot. He looked out the door and said: " I'll give you 1 round".

That sounds like something one particular person who works there would say......

I remember when I was younger, before I was "of age" for handguns I used to walk down my street with a long gun all the time. I would go down a half mile to my family's farm and hunt groundhogs, walking past neighbor houses, people driving by and no one would care. It's amazing/sad how much things have changed so quickly and I'm only 30.

Threeband · Oct 20, 2016

You did just fine.

Good thing you weren't wearing an Oathkeepers hat, though.

outrider58 · Oct 20, 2016

RoadDawg said:
YOU did nothing wrong...
The LEOs did nothing wrong...

The person calling in the complaint was simply concerned about a stranger walking down the road in their neighborhood, carrying a gun case.

You were vindicated by the investigation and found to be violating NO laws... AND... even got a free ride home for your troubles.

AND for those who want to biotch and name call the LEOs... Giving the OP a ride home was NOT the action of someone "being an ass".

Zackly

Lightyear68 · Oct 20, 2016

Qbeam said:
Just out of curiosity, what county was this in?

Q

Harford County

lonzo · Oct 26, 2016

I'd like to think it would just depends on the long gun..if it was something of a 5.56, you might get SWAT and of course the 6'oclock news in Maryland...it wouldn't surprise me, at least in Moco or PG....

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