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Old May 16th, 2018, 11:48 AM #1
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New Build...14.5 with Pinned/Welded Compensator or AR Pistol

I am debating on what I want for my 2nd build. I was set on building an Ar Pistol with a 10.5 barrel and adding a SBA3 Brace to it or KAK Shockwave but then I cam across threads of people taking a 14/14.5 barrel and pinning/welding a compensator or muzzle break. From what I read as long as the barrel is 16in or overall is 26in then it wont be considered a SBR with a collapsible stock and I now see Faxon has a pinned barrel if I choose not to do it myself or a smith do it.
Has anyone built both of these or have both and what do you think or feel about it. Should I just stick with an at pistol or build the 14.5 pinned rifle.

Also I have seen to articles saying the brace can be shouldered by BAFTE but then supposedly a recent search of a thread revising the original open letter saying it cant. Is there any clarity on it this?

Thanks for any info
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Old May 16th, 2018, 12:26 PM #2
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The problem with a carbine receiver is it needs a heavy barrel to be legal. I build a pistol with a 16" government profile barrel cut down to 10.5 and it feels much more ergonomic than my 16" heavy barrel carbine.
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Old May 16th, 2018, 12:49 PM #3
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I thought if you build a Ar Pistol you don't need it to be an HBAR. Are there any 10.5in HBARs out there?
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Old May 16th, 2018, 12:50 PM #4
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I am debating on what I want for my 2nd build. I was set on building an Ar Pistol with a 10.5 barrel and adding a SBA3 Brace to it or KAK Shockwave but then I cam across threads of people taking a 14/14.5 barrel and pinning/welding a compensator or muzzle break. From what I read as long as the barrel is 16in or overall is 26in then it wont be considered a SBR with a collapsible stock and I now see Faxon has a pinned barrel if I choose not to do it myself or a smith do it.
Has anyone built both of these or have both and what do you think or feel about it. Should I just stick with an at pistol or build the 14.5 pinned rifle.

Also I have seen to articles saying the brace can be shouldered by BAFTE but then supposedly a recent search of a thread revising the original open letter saying it cant. Is there any clarity on it this?

Thanks for any info
IIRC the braces can be shouldered but inadvertently. So they put out ambiguous letter so people would not in essence make a full time SBR with a brace.
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Old May 16th, 2018, 02:35 PM #5
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So does an AR-15 pistol with a 10" barrel still need to be a HBAR?
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Old May 16th, 2018, 02:43 PM #6
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So does an AR-15 pistol with a 10" barrel still need to be a HBAR?
No. FSA 2013 applies to rifles.
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Old May 16th, 2018, 05:29 PM #7
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No. FSA 2013 applies to rifles.
Correct. But since it applies, the rifle has to be at least 29 overall length for Maryland. That includes SBRs.

A 14.5 pinned to >16 is going to be over 29 though.
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Mr. Chad is working on pinning my as we speak 13.7 barrel pinned to 17", Ballistics Advantage Barrel seems shorter because my muzzle device measures 4.5 inches tip to tail but my barrel seems to be closer to 17 inches as opposed to 17.7
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A few years ago 14.7 with pinned muzzle device to reach 16in was quite common.

No real justification for them , but I've had a hankering for an 11.5in with long pinned device to make 16in .
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Correct. But since it applies, the rifle has to be at least 29 overall length for Maryland. That includes SBRs.

A 14.5 pinned to >16 is going to be over 29 though.
The man asked about a pistol with a 10 inch barrel and I answered the question. In your scenario, a rifle with a 14.5"barrel with a pinned and welded flash hider would need to be a heavy barrel because it is a rifle.
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