PBS News 2018 Global Gun Ranking

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health...king-of-gun-deaths-heres-where-the-u-s-stands

Sounds like a slight anti swing, but can't make any case for more laws and even refutes the antis spin on mass shootings.

"While mass shootings like these capture the most media attention, they are responsible for a small sliver of overall gun deaths in the United States, gun violence experts Frederick P. Rivara, David M. Studdert and Garen J. Wintemute wrote in an editorial published in JAMA alongside the new report."

Basically says what I've said for a while, if you're not a gang banger or depressed, your chances of dying by firearm are very slim.

85MikeTPI said:

Basically says what I've said for a while, if you're not a gang banger or depressed, your chances of dying by firearm are very slim.

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True for Caucasians; there's your only "white privilege" - not being murdered by your homies.

In the interest of promoting equality of outcome, that problem is being looked at, and will be addressed by your Attorney General and the MD General Assembly.

Bob A said:

In the interest of promoting equality of outcome, that problem is being looked at, and will be addressed by your Attorney General and the MD General Assembly.

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Their solution? Mandatory Foot-Roulette for everyone ...

firearms related deaths 2016

“When it comes to the number of gun-related homicides, the U.S. ranks 30th worldwide.”

Total U.S. firearms related deaths 37,200
Suicides - 23,800
Homicides 13,400

Wondering what the ranking would be if the inner city homicide numbers were deducted?

Regards
Jack

If you eliminate the suicides from the numbers, the USA comes in at #60.

And if you eliminate just a few completely out of control liberal enclaves (like Chicago or Baltimore), the numbers go radically in a different direction. Not that we're allowed to talk about that.

wjackcooper said:

“When it comes to the number of gun-related homicides, the U.S. ranks 30th worldwide.”

Total U.S. firearms related deaths 37,200
Suicides - 23,800
Homicides 13,400

Wondering what the ranking would be if the inner city homicide numbers were deducted?

Regards
Jack

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By Heather Brown Sciolis
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016.

Do the math: 0.0009% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

• 65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws.
• 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified.
• 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence.
• 3% are accidental discharge deaths.
So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.
• 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
• 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
• 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
• 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?

• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
• 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.
• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).
Now it gets good:
• 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital!
• 710,000 people die per year from heart disease.

It’s time to stop sugar & carbs!! So what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ................ Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns?

It's pretty simple:
Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs. So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed."

Great post. Thanks for mining the statistics.

Bigfoot21075,

Thanks for posting.

I note the reference to Heather Brown Sciolis. Is there a link to another posting or study?

Regards
Jack

wjackcooper said:

Bigfoot21075,

Thanks for posting.

I note the reference to Heather Brown Sciolis. Is there a link to another posting or study?

Regards
Jack

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Hi There Jack!

No, I no longer have the link itself, but the 2016 stats are easily checked with the FBI and other sources.