80% lowers

cpbrews · Feb 20, 2016

Hey all, I'm new to the MD shooters forums and I have some questions regarding the legality of owning an 80% AR lower. I know it's possible to order them, but a local gun shop told me that unless I'm a licensed gunsmith or FFL dealer, that I cannot finish the machining on an 80% lower to make it into a "firearm" . The lady said it was illegal. But I've heard that as long as I finish the lower, with no intention of selling/giving it away, and use it only for my personal use, that I'm perfectly fine to do so..so here I am asking y'all about this! Thank you in advance for any advice

foodpoison · Feb 20, 2016

Legal if you use a h-bar upper or pistol

Rhome3 · Feb 20, 2016

IMO, I'd stop posting this on a site that major anti-gun individuals frequently visit.

cpbrews · Feb 20, 2016

Oh okay. So what would be classified as a H-bar upper?

pcfixer · Feb 20, 2016

https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/receiver-blanks

GTOGUNNER · Feb 20, 2016

First Welcome to MDShooters, cpbrews.

2nd,, go here http://www.mdshooters.com/forumdisplay.php?f=119 and introduce yourself.

3rd,, The search function works well. It is best to use it rather than start a new thread. (we are a friendly bunch).

teratos · Feb 20, 2016

Rhome3 said:
IMO, I'd stop posting this on a site that major anti-gun individuals frequently visit.

Why? There are 80% threads all over the place. Cat's out of the bag.

Bolts Rock · Feb 20, 2016

cpbrews said:
Hey all, I'm new to the MD shooters forums and I have some questions regarding the legality of owning an 80% AR lower. I know it's possible to order them, but a local gun shop told me that unless I'm a licensed gunsmith or FFL dealer, that I cannot finish the machining on an 80% lower to make it into a "firearm" . The lady said it was illegal. But I've heard that as long as I finish the lower, with no intention of selling/giving it away, and use it only for my personal use, that I'm perfectly fine to do so..so here I am asking y'all about this! Thank you in advance for any advice

Worth A Shot perhaps?

fred333 · Feb 20, 2016

Put simply, it's legal to manufacture your own rifle in Maryland as long as it ends up with >16" long HBAR (heavy) barrel. Non-HBAR barrels on a civilian-owned AR rifle are verboten, regardless of who constructs it. On the other hand, AR sidearms 'n' SBRs're alot more fun.

cpbrews · Feb 20, 2016

Thank you for all of your feedback! I'm quite new to the whole forum thing, I've never joined one before. But I appreciate the information

Blacksmith101 · Feb 20, 2016

You might want to find another gun shop to go to also. Try looking in our Industry Partners section because most of them are quite knowledgeable and very good people to deal with.

DaemonAssassin · Feb 20, 2016

Why would you want to do an 80%, if the price of a stripped lower at an FFL is less than the price of an 80%?

mac1_131 · Feb 20, 2016

it is legal for a non-licensee to manufacture a firearm for personal use (assuming the person isn't prohibited). search around a bit, the info is out there.

and yes it has to be an HBAR upper if made into a rifle.

Rab1515 · Feb 20, 2016

DaemonAssassin said:
Why would you want to do an 80%, if the price of a stripped lower at an FFL is less than the price of an 80%?

Because md tracks what regulated guns you own. 80% have no 77r, and are untraceable unless you look at purchase history. Plus there's a satisfaction to making your own firarm.

cpbrews · Feb 21, 2016

DaemonAssassin said:
Why would you want to do an 80%, if the price of a stripped lower at an FFL is less than the price of an 80%?

Mostly I want the satisfaction of completing it myself. I'm a DIY'er, I just love tinkering with things and trying new stuff, so I figured why not?

Muleskinner · Feb 21, 2016

I completed 2 80% lowers last week using this. Picked it up at Maryland Quartermaster in Falston. Took about 3 hours per blank.. http://www.80percentarms.com/products/80-ar-15-easy-jig

drking2 · Feb 21, 2016

I want to build one too, maybe if I can find a cheap mill

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Pstango · Feb 21, 2016

Muleskinner said:
I completed 2 80% lowers last week using this. Picked it up at Maryland Quartermaster in Falston. Took about 3 hours per blank.. http://www.80percentarms.com/products/80-ar-15-easy-jig

I've been eyeing this setup after hearing great things about it.... Maybe after I finally finish the two project guns I have on my bench... :/

Alphabrew · Feb 21, 2016

Easy jig and the $29 TM 80% lowers is the ****

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Mark75H · Feb 21, 2016

drking2 said:
I want to build one too, maybe if I can find a cheap mill

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You don't even need a mill. There are jigs and tools to complete 80's without a mill

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