Silencer no paper work from silencerco
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justiw
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Group buy?
Kinda fugly, but I still want one.
Kinda fugly, but I still want one.
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
How is this legal? It's still muffling the KABOOM.
Why haven't muzzleloaders been made like this before? In the past 83 years.
If this is legal, it seems like any hunter can attach a suppressor to any muzzleloader with a threaded barrel. Legally.
ATF letter cutting this company off at the knees in 3...2...1...
Why haven't muzzleloaders been made like this before? In the past 83 years.
If this is legal, it seems like any hunter can attach a suppressor to any muzzleloader with a threaded barrel. Legally.
ATF letter cutting this company off at the knees in 3...2...1...
BP guns are not firearms 
The suppressor has to be permanently attached.
The reasons why No One did this before is because it doesn't help much and loading is cumbersome
The suppressor has to be permanently attached.
The reasons why No One did this before is because it doesn't help much and loading is cumbersome
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
BP guns are not firearms
If truly legal, I just found my new basement tinkering project.
I believe I'll write a letter to the ATF first though.
Cuzz right now this seems like it's straight out of a fake Russian Onion article.
ohen cepel
Ultimate Member
BP are not firearms, neither are air rifles which is why they can have them permanently attached. Tricky problem for a citizen is having it and it not being attached.
Please do not start writing letters and get us all into another brace fiasco, the law is pretty clear. I'm sure they got an opinion from the ATF before they put them out there.
I think it's neat and I'm happy that they did it to point out the stupidity of things but don't see much gain for me as it is now.
Please do not start writing letters and get us all into another brace fiasco, the law is pretty clear. I'm sure they got an opinion from the ATF before they put them out there.
I think it's neat and I'm happy that they did it to point out the stupidity of things but don't see much gain for me as it is now.
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
Wondering about patches and sabots getting stuck in there somewhere.
There would have to be a tube running the full the length of the suppressor with vent holes to bleed the sound into the main can.
With the ID of tube being very close in size to the OD of the sabot.
There would have to be a tube running the full the length of the suppressor with vent holes to bleed the sound into the main can.
With the ID of tube being very close in size to the OD of the sabot.
biermkr
Ultimate Member
The website Q&A says no sabots, wads, or any plastic piece that separates from the projectile. I suspect patches would qualify as a no-no as well.
Hog Sniper
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- Nov 16, 2008
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All based on the same idea that you can have a 12" muzzle loading shotgun, handgun etc. with no paperwork. Its not a "Firearm". Just waiting for them to do the handgun barrels....
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
Screw that.
I haven't found a muzzleloader yet that would sling a plain chunk of lead accurately.
May be OK for up close and personal Bambi whacking, but not distance shooting.
IMBLITZVT
Ultimate Member
Interesting idea. I don't see why this is in the NFA area as its clearly not NFA! Thats the whole point! 
I suspect there will be alot of people making thier own, welding it etc.
Not sure I understand how the bullet is getting sealing in the grooves. Maybe it isnt.
Accuracy reports will be important.
I also wonder how good it will be when you load it for a subsonic velocity?
Letter was already done:
https://silencerco.com/wp-content/themes/silencerco/documents/maxim50/full-atf-letter.pdf
I have seen vids of where people took a stamped Suppressor and threaded a muzzleloader and then used a powerbelt.
I find powerbelts less accurate than a sabot beyond 50 yards
Reading the online manual for the Maxim 50, it recommends this which I have no experience with.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/FEDERAL-TROPHY-COPPER-MUZZLELOADER-BULLETS/1906801.uts
In the woods, close to neighbors, up in a tree, this could be viable if you don't want to draw attention.
ken792
Ultimate Member
They engage the rifling just as they did 160 years ago, like an old school Minie ball. They have a hollow base that expand into the rifling upon firing. The Hornady FPB is a one piece bullet with a thin copper jacket while the Powerbelt has a plastic skirt. I have no idea how the FPB compares to a sabot though.
I suppose you could also use a Minie ball, Maxi-Ball, Ball-et, or Plains Bullet if you want something plain lead, since they don't use a separate wad or sabot.
I suppose you could also use a Minie ball, Maxi-Ball, Ball-et, or Plains Bullet if you want something plain lead, since they don't use a separate wad or sabot.
right! i dont even know how they got that picture in the first place. did he stalk out there so nobody could see him or whatI would predict there quite probably will be a cleaning issue with the baffles if any lube is used. None of the projectiles in the manual have lube
ken792
Ultimate Member
Clean it with diesel?
Use a little bore butter? Or a very light oil? On the website it has very detailed instructions for cleaning and firing the muzzle loader.
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