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Old March 18th, 2019, 06:48 PM #21
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I think you had to pull the trigger to take the gun down...at least a rather unreliable source within the department told me that. People would pull the trigger with one still in the chamber.
Baltimore PD began conversion to Glock pistols in December of 1990. I was in the second class of converts from the S&W Mod 10 to the Glock Mod 17...

EVERY time a Glock pistol is field stripped the "unloading and make safe" system remains the same.
- Remove magazine
- Rack slide thrice
- Check chamber visually
- Look away
- Check chamber visually again
- Place finger into chamber to check and make sure NO round is in the chamber
- Pull slide rearward to release slide stop lever allowing slide to go forward into battery position
- Pull trigger to release trigger action bar from firing pin
- Move slide to the rear to remove tension from the slide lock
- Pull down on slide lock to release and allow the slide assembly to be moved forward and removed from the frame.


THOUSANDS of Officers have been trained in that method and have been carrying the Glock pistol for MILLIONS of hours on and off duty. Very RARELY have they experienced NDs due to the procedure for field stripping the Glock pistol.

And those times when it has happened... were ALWAYS the operator error factor.

The Baltimore County PD was experiencing malfunctions/NDs which were attributed to the pistol they were using...(FNS-40) in a sufficient number cases... that they did not care to continue with the liability.

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I know that someone will be along to tell me how wrong I am... But, I personally do not know of any cases where the Glock pistol malfunctioned without some direct or indirect action by the person in possession of the pistol at the time.
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Old March 18th, 2019, 09:52 PM #22
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And those times when it has happened... were ALWAYS the operator error factor.

The Baltimore County PD was experiencing malfunctions/NDs which were attributed to the pistol they were using...(FNS-40) in a sufficient number cases... that they did not care to continue with the liability.

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I know that someone will be along to tell me how wrong I am... But, I personally do not know of any cases where the Glock pistol malfunctioned without some direct or indirect action by the person in possession of the pistol at the time.

You mean like how an operator was always behind an FNS pistol when it fired.
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Old March 19th, 2019, 03:40 PM #23
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You mean like how an operator was always behind an FNS pistol when it fired.
A few fired in holsters.

Then a soft blow by a hammer could set some off.

Then the triggers started to fall off.
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They reported the ones they had were due to the holster design. They got a new holster.

It was discovered the gun could be put into a situation where tapping the back of firearm cause the gun to fire. Hence the current striker recall.
Yeah I remember a AD from a LEO due to that holster. You can pretty much stick your finger in and pull the trigger.
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A few fired in holsters.

Then a soft blow by a hammer could set some off.

Then the triggers started to fall off.
This. It wasn’t negligence. They would just go bang. Then they started hammering them to see if they could make them go bang and yup, they would.
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