Wear gloves while using petroleum products.

protegeV · May 17, 2017

Cancer sucks, glad he's in remission, no way to prove petro products caused it.

My grandfather worked for 40 years in a body shop filled with body filler dust, paint fumes, and all kinds of nastiness. One of his employees died in his early 50s. They said it was his profession. My grandfather is alive and kicking strong at 81 now.

Point is, you can't always pinpoint the cause of an ailment and universally apply it to everyone. I.E. if you work around noxious fumes you will die early. If you handle petro products with bare skin you will get cancer.

Stuff just happens. Next thing you know someone will blame their cancer on McDonald's bc the have a sausage egg mcmuffin every morning...

protegeV · May 17, 2017

Also, this is not completely dissimilar from the kid who just died from "drinking too much caffeine." Most know that excessive caffeine is bad, but there's no formula for X mg of caffeine in X amount of time equals death.

It's probably a good idea to have gloves on. I use them because I just don't want to get super dirty. But I would absolutely not obsess about ppe for fear of cancer, of all things.

Boondock Saint · May 17, 2017

protegeV said:
Also, this is not completely dissimilar from the kid who just died from "drinking too much caffeine." Most know that excessive caffeine is bad, but there's no formula for X mg of caffeine in X amount of time equals death.

It's probably a good idea to have gloves on. I use them because I just don't want to get super dirty. But I would absolutely not obsess about ppe for fear of cancer, of all things.

Caffeine is addictive, but it's not bad for you. Also pretty good for you.

And caffeine can be fatal, but only in absurd doses, like eating caffeine in its raw form. The LD50 is 150mg/kg body weight.

Biggfoot44 · May 17, 2017

Eh. Long before fatal dosages of cafine per se , will be complications of dehydration, and a 10 point increase in BP would trigger a certain percentage of the strokes and heart attacks already waiting to happen.

K31 · May 17, 2017

I've pretty much always worn gloves when cleaning firearms just to keep from leaving deposits on them that will cause rust but now I wear surgical gloves instead of cotton work gloves.

KJackson · May 17, 2017

I remember being told in health class many years ago that petroleum can cause latex to break down - Of course it was presented as don't use Vaseline with condoms. So maybe stick to non-latex gloves.

Sthomas229 · May 17, 2017

I've been an auto mechanic for close to 30 yrs, I've literally bathed in motor oil, gasoline and diesel fuel. Guess I'm gonna die.

Sthomas229 · May 17, 2017

KJackson said:
I remember being told in health class many years ago that petroleum can cause latex to break down - Of course it was presented as don't use Vaseline with condoms. So maybe stick to non-latex gloves.

Oil takes a little while, gasoline will disintigrate them on your hands.

ironpony · May 17, 2017

Once they hear this what might they use in their cars out in CA?
I know WD-40 has said hand cleaner on it in the past and believe it is a petro base. ?? We used to wash our hands in gallon buckets of acetone when working with fiberglass, I moved on to resin infusion, much cleaner.

protegeV · May 17, 2017

Sthomas229 said:
Oil takes a little while, gasoline will disintigrate them on your hands.

Same for mineral spirits(parts washer)

Minuteman · May 18, 2017

All jokes aside.

Wear gloves when cleaning firearms.

This message from a legend, who knows it was the cause of his cancer.

I post this because he looked us in the eye, and cared.

I'm wearing gloves from now on, do what you want, he and I were just trying to help.

Good luck to us all.

A1Uni · May 18, 2017

My father died of Multiple Myeloma, a cancer often associated with exposure to benzene, basically, gas.

He was directly exposed to it to a great extent early in his life, though the cancer didn't get him until he was 76.

I second the OP; wear gloves, period.

MikeTF · May 18, 2017

It is easier to wear gloves, take them off, and throw them out than it is to wash dirty hands. That's why I wear them. I don't miss the old days of that 'Lava' compound we used to dip our hands in to clean them: it took me forever to get the fingernails clean.

Minuteman · May 18, 2017

MikeTF said:
It is easier to wear gloves, take them off, and throw them out than it is to wash dirty hands. That's why I wear them. I don't miss the old days of that 'Lava' compound we used to dip our hands in to clean them: it took me forever to get the fingernails clean.

Thank you. This is probably the most simple and direct 'best' advice possible.

Also thanks to those that also mentioned this.

I'll admit, I'm getting lazy, I don't shoot as much as I would like too, and I clean even less often. I can afford a dozen pairs of 10 cent gloves.

Possible to wash the gloves still on my hands with soap and water and get a few uses out of them?

BigSteve57 · May 18, 2017

I've been wearing gloves to work on the guns for the past 10 or so years.
Prior to that all I had were a couple hunting rifles and a couple of handguns. Cleaning was therefore once or twice a year for the hunting rifles and a few times per year for the handguns.

Then came high power and C&R matches and for the past 10 years I'm cleaning some gun about twice per week.

I have no idea if gun solvents or any other solvent is a direct cause of cancer all by itself. But I do think that there is a tipping point where long term exposure to chemical agents can make adverse changes in your body.

So yeah, I now wear gloves.

Minuteman · May 18, 2017

BigSteve57 said:
I've been wearing gloves to work on the guns for the past 10 or so years.
Prior to that all I had were a couple hunting rifles and a couple of handguns. Cleaning was therefore once or twice a year for the hunting rifles and a few times per year for the handguns.

Then came high power and C&R matches and for the past 10 years I'm cleaning some gun about twice per week.

I have no idea if gun solvents or any other solvent is a direct cause of cancer all by itself. But I do think that there is a tipping point where long term exposure to chemical agents can make adverse changes in your body.

So yeah, I now wear gloves.

Thanks, your testimony much appreciated. I'm going to do my best to be right there with you from now on. :thumbsup:

MikeTF · May 18, 2017

Minuteman said:
Thank you. This is probably the most simple and direct 'best' advice possible.

Also thanks to those that also mentioned this.

I'll admit, I'm getting lazy, I don't shoot as much as I would like too, and I clean even less often. I can afford a dozen pairs of 10 cent gloves.

Possible to wash the gloves still on my hands with soap and water and get a few uses out of them?

You're welcome. I could add that our spouses prefer that we wear gloves too, if you know what I mean :innocent0

(Could this count as a 'bonus' post?).

Minuteman · May 18, 2017

MikeTF said:
You're welcome. I could add that our spouses prefer that we wear gloves too, if you know what I mean (Could this count as a 'bonus' post?).

KJackson · May 19, 2017

The only problem I could see with wearing gloves is if you are doing a lot of disassembly and the gloves make it hard to hold the little parts or screws. I have a box of non-latex gloves under the sink that my wife uses when she cleans so I am good.

Anotherpyr · May 19, 2017

It's good advice that I probably should follow given I'm actually allergic to some petroleum products. But I haven't so far.

Wear gloves while using petroleum products.

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Good advice, I use or plan to use rubber, latex, other gloves while using these products.

Everything causes cancer, it's too late for me and I won't bother.

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