Mike Smigiel's thoughts on Hogan

GUNSnROTORS · Aug 18, 2018

teratos said:
Cute but accurate. You aren't choosing where you go to lunch. You are choosing where we all go to lunch. YOU may vote for Taco Bell, but if Burger King wins than WE ALL go to Burger King. Once Burger King wins, you will not get a Big Mac or a chalupa. You will have to choose from the Burger King menu. We all will.

Using Hogan to cockblock Jealous is what this is about.

Bumper sticker? "A Vote for Hogan is a Jealous Cock-block!"

For the record, I will vote for Hogan.

ezracer · Aug 18, 2018

I reference my post #354.

From doing a quick read of this thread, Jealous seems to be the winner.

God only knows what the man has in mind. I know this...it ain't good!!

You guys still scare me!!

Docster · Aug 18, 2018

Name Taken said:
Is that the only reason? Or is it the main reason his name keeps coming up on a gun forum?

I think he's done a lot of "good" outside of the gun world. He held KK's feet to fire on school spending, he cancelled plans for the red line, he's lowered some tolls, he's vetoed several bills that I didn't support, both him and Franchot appear to have some understanding of fiscal responsiblity, he's been about as "pro" law and order that you are going to get, and the list goes on and on for me. He actually got rid of the "rain tax" to some extent. He cancelled money going to Baltimore City after numerous articles of fruad/waste/and unaccountable spending. Provided some tax relief for first responders (although I don't support it). Besides him seperating himself from President Trump hasn't used his podium for many "political" comments.

Is he perfect? Nope. Should he not get a vote or support because of a single issue? Not in my book. Am I only voting for him because I don't want a socialist in office? Not at all.

If that is your only reason well its better than no reason at all. I suppose if you only did your "research" on recent MDS threads that might be the only reason one could come up with. If folks paid attention for the last 4 years outside of a single issue maybe they'd make intellegent statements instead of "gee he must suck if it is him or a socislist".

Well said. Not voting or supporting a candidate based on a single issue is no different than voting the "D" line just because they're Dems

ezracer · Aug 18, 2018

OK! So all of you with 'PRINCIPLES'.... go ahead and NOT VOTE! But, don't you dare come back on this thread after Jealous wins and Bitch, and moan, and complain. I then suggest that you......

STFU!!!!!!

Boondock Saint · Aug 18, 2018

ezracer said:
OK! So all of you with 'PRINCIPLES'.... go ahead and NOT VOTE! But, don't you dare come back on this thread after Jealous wins and Bitch, and moan, and complain. I then suggest that you......

STFU!!!!!!

I'm not voting for Jealous. I'm not voting for Hogan. You don't have to like it, but as long as it's cool with the staff here, I'll not be S-ing TFU. Deal with it or don't.

Fox123 · Aug 18, 2018

It’s an Internet forum..... what else is it for?

somd_mustangs · Aug 18, 2018

GUNSnROTORS said:
Bumper sticker? "A Vote for Hogan is a Jealous Cock-block!"

teratos · Aug 18, 2018

GUNSnROTORS said:
Bumper sticker? "A Vote for Hogan is a Jealous Cock-block!"
.

Have a little chubby guy bending over with a weener headed straight for his tookas. Make sure he gets one.

dblas · Aug 19, 2018

Occam said:
Complacent conservatives not thinking about the bigger political picture and the rest of the races that are impacted by tolerating the socialist candidate for governor are going to do a lot of damage here, and across the country. We'll probably lose congress because of exactly that sort of complacency. Not loving everything about Hogan increases the socialist's odds (and thus also Frosh's) just like feeling unmotivated is going to put Nancy Pelosi right back where she so craves to be.

TexDefender said:
Couldn't agree more.

You both make some awful big assumptions about those that are speaking out against Hogan.

Call me when you have put your job, business and life on hold for the entire 90 days of the Legislative session (not once, but twice) before you even think about throwing any stones at some of us.

dblas · Aug 19, 2018

TexDefender said:
As an individual most likely. So, why not explain our displeasure as a block. As part of the NRA, MSI, PP, MDS, and constantly flood the office. You don't think "Moms that Demand Action" have that much dedication? That what the left does, it is an ever going email, mail, protesting, lobbying, public appeal and other activities campaign to leverage their cause.

Because he ignores us and our phone calls, e-mails, etc both as individuals and as a block of individuals. Hell he will take a meeting with MOMs, but he won't take a meeting with any of the 2A organizations.

He doesn't need our votes to get elected, while the other down ticket folks do (Wolf et al) so not pulling the lever for Hogan while pulling the lever for the rest, does absolutely nothing to hurt us, because 4 years ago, we didn't make that big a difference in his winning office in the first place.

dblas · Aug 19, 2018

Occam said:
Sure you do! You matter to Ben Jealous, because you're not voting against him and for the only person who can beat him. Ben Jealous The Socialist thanks you for any action or inaction that doesn't constructively help his opponent win.

Using that logic, Hogan voted for Hillary when he didn't support Trump.

dblas · Aug 19, 2018

ezracer said:
OK! So all of you with 'PRINCIPLES'.... go ahead and NOT VOTE! But, don't you dare come back on this thread after Jealous wins and Bitch, and moan, and complain. I then suggest that you......

STFU!!!!!!

For those of us that bust our asses in Annapolis year in and year out, for those of you that haven't, show up or STFU...

babalou · Aug 19, 2018

hear hear

dblas said:
For those of us that bust our asses in Annapolis year in and year out, for those of you that haven't, show up or STFU...

Bingo

Racer Doug14 · Aug 19, 2018

I will not insult the time that members have spent in Annapolis. But, that time was spent on 2A rights and legislation. If BJ wins, you can move out of the state then. The MGA will not be concerned with a possible, albeit none existant, veto form the Gov.

Do you have no concern of nothing else if Jellyous wins? Hogan impacts so much more. I hate to admit that this state, in its current legislative makeup, is a 2A lost cause. All gun rights WILL be affirmed through the courts. NO rights or allowances will come by way of Annapolis or the Governor's office.

Not voting for Hogan on that single issue is dumb.
Was voting for Hogan vs Brown a hard choice? Outside of gun rights?

rockstarr · Aug 19, 2018

Racer Doug14 said:
I will not insult the time that members have spent in Annapolis. But, that time was spent on 2A rights and legislation. If BJ wins, you can move out of the state then. The MGA will not be concerned with a possible, albeit none existant, veto form the Gov.

Do you have no concern of nothing else if Jellyous wins? Hogan impacts so much more. I hate to admit that this state, in its current legislative makeup, is a 2A lost cause. All gun rights WILL be affirmed through the courts. NO rights or allowances will come by way of Annapolis or the Governor's office.

Not voting for Hogan on that single issue is dumb.
Was voting for Hogan vs Brown a hard choice? Outside of gun rights?

Not voting for hogan because he didn’t advocate for the repeal of the fsa 2013 is one thing imo, but not voting for him because he signed a bill into law that can have your firearms taken from you on a whim because of a goofy girlfriend or whoever else, is another.

He’s basically told us to go eff ourselves several times in the name of claiming moral high ground to the other side. So yeah, that means a lot to some of the people here and I fully support any of their decisions to support who they want.

Just because someone here doesn’t want to support someone who they feel betrayed by, doesn’t make it wrong.

I see the points of all here regarding what happens if jealous gets elected vs those that can’t bring themselves to vote hogan.

dist1646 · Aug 19, 2018

Hogan is already on board with signing more 2A restrictions. You can vote for either Hogan or Jealous but, in the end, you are voting against yourself! I'll say it again, nothing will change in this state until we change the legislature! All this back and forth on which anti will be governor is feeding right into the hands of our enemies in the legislature because it eliminates any realistic pressure on them!

eruby · Aug 19, 2018

dblas · Aug 19, 2018

Racer Doug14 said:
I will not insult the time that members have spent in Annapolis. But, that time was spent on 2A rights and legislation.

Well, you understand part of the picture.

Racer Doug14 said:
If BJ wins, you can move out of the state then. The MGA will not be concerned with a possible, albeit none existant, veto form the Gov.

But, apparently not all of it.

The Governor has no power in this state, whether they bey be Democrat, Republican, or whatever. The Governor simply signs bills into law and his cabinet members enforce those laws. The real power is in the legislature, and if several seats are flipped, then the Democrats can no longer over ride a veto.

Racer Doug14 said:
Do you have no concern of nothing else if Jellyous wins? Hogan impacts so much more. I hate to admit that this state, in its current legislative makeup, is a 2A lost cause. All gun rights WILL be affirmed through the courts. NO rights or allowances will come by way of Annapolis or the Governor's office.

Nope, those rights come from us, busting our collective asses in Annapolis for 90 days (and more).

For every bill we keep off of the Governor's desk, that is that much more money that is saved on lawsuits. Oh, wait, most folks are of the "why try, nothing changes crowd". As I stated in a previous posting, show up or stfu (not directed at you).

Racer Doug14 said:
Not voting for Hogan on that single issue is dumb.
Was voting for Hogan vs Brown a hard choice? Outside of gun rights?

Hogan didn't need our votes to win 4 years ago, and our lack of votes won't tip the scales one way or the other this year. NOW, for the other races, down ticket, absolutely those votes matter.

Racer Doug14 · Aug 19, 2018

So, dblas. Your answer is to not vote for governor. Got it.

dblas · Aug 19, 2018

Racer Doug14 said:
So, dblas. Your answer is to not vote for governor. Got it.

part of the answer, for those that are so inclined, yes. You and a bunch of others here, apparently still don't see the whole picture and only concentrate on elections, and especially those of Governor. There are other options for Governor, that truely become options when people actually look outside of the 2 party system.

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