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Old June 11th, 2018, 10:58 AM #11
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You're right, of course, but that defense kinda ignores reality. Google and Facebook have created platforms that are the functional equivalent of soapboxes on public sidewalks a hundred years ago. The companies themselves recognize this, which is why they pay lip service to their "non-partisan" nature despite all evidence to the contrary.
Right. They function more like common carriers, and should be regulated as such.
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Old June 11th, 2018, 11:45 AM #12
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If they were shut down, they seem to be back now.

https://www.youtube.com/user/brownellsinc
They were indeed down over the weekend. When I checked saturday the YouTube channels said closed for violation of terms of service.

glad they are back.

But, Youtube and Google have too much market power and really need some antitrust intervention or serious regulation.
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Old June 11th, 2018, 11:50 AM #13
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I think it only takes a couple flags against a content providers content for it to be taken down. I'm not sure if it's Joe Shmo Publics flags or the elite volunteer moderators who need to flag it too many times.
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Old June 11th, 2018, 11:51 AM #14
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While I think it sucks, it is not an "attack" on anything. Unless of course Google is run by the Gov't. Google is private entity that provides a service and they can decide who uses that service and who does not.
Good point Brownells is wrong saying this is an attack, since DJT was elected there have been very few political "attacks" (deniro). Sarcasm, I understand your view jrumann but actually the line between attack and "we are just taking our ball and going home" has become very definable. I would like to see a list of non-conservative YT channels who have had difficulties .... a much shorter list I bet.
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Old June 11th, 2018, 11:56 AM #15
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You're right, of course, but that defense kinda ignores reality. Google and Facebook have created platforms that are the functional equivalent of soapboxes on public sidewalks a hundred years ago. The companies themselves recognize this, which is why they pay lip service to their "non-partisan" nature despite all evidence to the contrary.
It used to be you would go to the town square and get on a box and spout your views. Then newspapers came in and you could print your views and sell them or give them out for free.

You have no right to use Google or Facebook. And, even if you use them you do not have to pay anything. If you use them you have voluntarily decided to associate yourself with them.
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Good. They always have good videos for installing trigger kits and sights.
Isn't that one of the updated rules Youtube just created recently? I thought they said installation of gun parts wouldn't be allowed either.
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Google, Facebook and Twitter are not the equivalent of the soapbox in the town square. IMO they ARE the town square now - just virtual. You bring your own soapbox when you create your account.
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Google, Facebook and Twitter are not the equivalent of the soapbox in the town square. IMO they ARE the town square now - just virtual. You bring your own soapbox when you create your account.
It sucks that these companies don't practice the belief of free speech, but they are not the town square in that the town square is public property and these are not. There is no valid analogy.

Maybe you could argue the Internet is the town square and your own funded streaming server is your soapbox.

The answer is to find a service that practices free speech. For example there is a Facebook clone that is conservative. Getting eyes on it is the difficult part. It's easier with video since you just need to spread the URLs.
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Are there any sites that people are uploading removed youtube vids to?
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Are there any sites that people are uploading removed youtube vids to?

Others who have lost content are uploading to these places:


https://www.full30.com
https://www.bitchute.com
https://www.pornhub.com (yes, you read that correctly)
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