Can my Brother loan me an ar15?

07g35xnick · Feb 23, 2014

My brother lives in Wv and I'm in this hell hole MD so I need to know if him loaning me his ar15 would be breaking any new MD laws.

Thanks

swinokur · Feb 23, 2014

If he owned it before Oct 1. then no. It's legal to lend a firearm for sporting purposes. Just don't run afoul of 281, which prohibits a regulated long gun from coming into MD if it was not legally possessed before Oct.1

IANAL

Minuteman · Feb 23, 2014

Sure, he's your brother, and I assume neither of you are criminals; or you wouldn't be asking the question.

Wait, you are asking a legal question about Marylanistan - where common sense was lost long ago.

All kidding aside I stopped trying so hard to know the law once SB281 passed, most of us are probably criminals now, with nothing more than the stroke of a pen. Sorry I can't help you. Obligatory comment: check with your attorney and don't break the law - whatever that is today. I don't think there will be any issue because he lives in a free-state, and you are not bringing it into O'Malleyland.

07g35xnick · Feb 23, 2014

Hmmm he's waiting on them to be delivered to him now so guess that's not going to work.

Thanks

Boom Boom · Feb 23, 2014

Legal if he owned it prior to 10/1/13. Illegal if not. Bringing a banned long gun into MD purchased after 9/30/13 is a felony.

Minuteman · Feb 23, 2014

swinokur said:
If he owned it before Oct 1. then no. It's legal to lend a firearm for sporting purposes. Just don't run afoul of 281, which prohibits a regulated long gun from coming into MD if it was not legally possessed before Oct.1

IANAL

Yep this.

I read the OP wrong, I thought he was sending to his brother in WV.

07g35xnick · Feb 23, 2014

Minuteman said:
Sure, he's your brother, and I assume neither of you are criminals; or you wouldn't be asking the question.

Wait, you are asking a legal question about Marylanistan - where common sense was lost long ago.

All kidding aside I stopped trying so hard to know the law once SB281 passed, most of us are probably criminals now, with nothing more than the stroke of a pen. Sorry I can't help you. Obligatory comment: check with your attorney and don't break the law - whatever that is today. I don't think there will be any issue because he lives in a free-state, and you are not bringing it into O'Malleyland.

Haha no, we are good and he works for DOJ so that wouldn't look good.

Sorry for poor grammar and punct I'm in the car getting car sick typing this.

07g35xnick · Feb 23, 2014

Minuteman said:
Yep this.

I read the OP wrong, I thought he was sending to his brother in WV.

Yea so he just ordered a few lowers to be built and said I could use one of them if I wanted to... Use it as borrow not use to build. I figured that would be an issue with this new law.

07g35xnick · Feb 23, 2014

Boom Boom said:
Legal if he owned it prior to 10/1/13. Illegal if not. Bringing a banned long gun into MD purchased after 9/30/13 is a felony.

So I would get to see him often if I broke this law.

smokering · Feb 23, 2014

Just borrow it while in WV and you'll be fine, don't bring it home though.

CATMdude · Feb 23, 2014

Boom Boom said:
Legal if he owned it prior to 10/1/13. Illegal if not. Bringing a banned long gun into MD purchased after 9/30/13 is a felony.

If I read it correctly, it's actually a misdemeanor punishable by up to 3 years and/or $5,000 fine.

BlackBart · Feb 23, 2014

Put it this way............. I wouldn't.

swinokur · Feb 23, 2014

CATMdude said:
If I read it correctly, it's actually a misdemeanor punishable by up to 3 years and/or $5,000 fine.

And the forfeiture of your right to ever own a firearm again. Not worth it.

07g35xnick · Feb 23, 2014

Yea no way in hell I would give up my gun rights just to use his rifle. Thanks for the sb281 info guys!

gabe72 · Feb 23, 2014

So I am assuming no one can come to a md range for target practice or for a competition shoot with a post 10/1 rifle,just how are people gonna know they are commiting a crime in say 5 years they are traveling thru and stop for a day.

swinokur · Feb 23, 2014

If you travel with a firearm to another state, know the laws. Ignorance isn't much of a defense

CATMdude · Feb 23, 2014

swinokur said:
And the forfeiture of your right to ever own a firearm again. Not worth it.

I didn't say it was worth it. I was just pointing out that it isn't a felony.

lx1x · Feb 23, 2014

just buy an HBAR!!! LOL

CATMdude · Feb 23, 2014

lx1x said:
just buy an HBAR!!! LOL

This.

07g35xnick · Feb 23, 2014

lx1x said:
just buy an HBAR!!! LOL

LOL don't get me wrong I have plenty of my own . I just wanted to use his 6.8spc. Without having to take a 4 hr drive every time

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