- Dec 27, 2012
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How many people here would go for their guns if woken from a deep sleep in the middle of the night by a loud explosion in their home?
How many people here would be accused of an armed home invasion?
How many people here would go for their guns if woken from a deep sleep in the middle of the night by a loud explosion in their home?
How many people here would be accused of an armed home invasion?
This is what I want to know. It sounds like a no-knock warrant was used. Those should be a thing of the past in 99% of all cases because they escalate situations unnecessarily.
Maybe someone with more experience can enlighten me, but aren't some of the effects of a flash bang temporary hearing loss and disorientation?
How many people here would go for their guns if woken from a deep sleep in the middle of the night by a loud explosion in their home?
How many people are going to be able to hear someone shouting "police", or anything else, immediately after a flash bang is detonated near them?
JUNE 2005: Frederick County Sheriff's Office Deputy Charles Zang shot and killed Charles Nobel Sines at Sines' Araby Church Road home after Sines refused orders to drop his shotgun.
Vail was in one of the bedrooms and pointed a shotgun toward deputies after they entered his room, according to the sheriff's office.
Deputies made several commands directing Vail to put down the gun, but he did not comply. Two of the sheriff's team members fired numerous rounds, striking Vail. He was pronounced dead at the scene.
Deputies Charles Zang, a 15-year veteran of the office, and Kevin Riffle, a 7-year veteran of the office, were identified as the involved officers and have been placed on paid administrative leave.
True. I'm not saying I know the guy or what happened to him was wrong but I know I would be going for my gun if it happened to me. I also avoid problems with the law so this shouldn't be an issue.
Ever hear of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting ?
Sounds like a very scary situation for officers and the suspect, but how are you supposed to be expected to comply after being hit with a flash bang grenade in the middle of the night? Isn't the whole point to disorient the shit out of you?
This is what I want to know. It sounds like a no-knock warrant was used. Those should be a thing of the past in 99% of all cases because they escalate situations unnecessarily.
Maybe someone with more experience can enlighten me, but aren't some of the effects of a flash bang temporary hearing loss and disorientation?
How many people here would go for their guns if woken from a deep sleep in the middle of the night by a loud explosion in their home?
How many people are going to be able to hear someone shouting "police", or anything else, immediately after a flash bang is detonated near them?
No they shouldn't be a thing of the past. It is much better to do this in the middle of the night when the suspect will be disoriented and will have less of a chance to arm himself, take a hostage, or get into a possible shootout in public.
Chances are the flashbang was inside the door, not in the same room where he was sleeping. If it were in the same room, he would not have any time whatsoever to get his gun. While I feel for the officers involved, they did their job.
Why the SWAT-like assault on the house in the wee hours of darkness? If they knew who the perp was, why couldn't they just get him peacefully when he walked out of the house in daylight hours? Not like he was some escaped convicted murderer holed up with hostages and an arsenal.