HQL Process update

07g35xnick · Aug 22, 2014

So help me understand this HQL. Mine went active 2 days after I applied . Does that mean I'm good to purchase a handgun? I have a hard time understanding how it took so little time. App sent 8/11/14 active (certification date) 8/13/14

OrbitalEllipses · Aug 22, 2014

07g35xnick said:
So help me understand this HQL. Mine went active 2 days after I applied . Does that mean I'm good to purchase a handgun? I have a hard time understanding how it took so little time. App sent 8/11/14 active (certification date) 8/13/14

MSP is insisting that you need the physical card before purchasing.

AJRB · Aug 22, 2014

07g35xnick said:
So help me understand this HQL. Mine went active 2 days after I applied . Does that mean I'm good to purchase a handgun? I have a hard time understanding how it took so little time. App sent 8/11/14 active (certification date) 8/13/14

There really is no understanding how quick or long it takes. Some have gotten the card in the mail in less than a week and some have waited 3 plus weeks.

Your good to do paperwork when you get your card Iin the mail.

I applied on the 14th and am still missing the same 3 as a bunch of other people, nics, cjis, jis.

07g35xnick · Aug 22, 2014

OrbitalEllipses said:
MSP is insisting that you need the physical card before purchasing.

I got that the day after I sent app. Thanks for the info

07g35xnick · Aug 22, 2014

AJRB said:
There really is no understanding how quick or long it takes. Some have gotten the card in the mail in less than a week and some have waited 3 plus weeks.

Your good to do paperwork when you get your card Iin the mail.

I applied on the 14th and am still missing the same 3 as a bunch of other people, nics, cjis, jis.

Wow that's crazy. I must have slipped in at a good time

Vile Shadow · Aug 22, 2014

cap6888 said:
I'm in the same boat. Waiting almost two weeks. Guess everyone applied at the same time.

I did mine last Saturday. It came today.

JVP409 · Aug 23, 2014

Finger prints and application Monday 8/18
Approved on Wed 8/20
Card arrived in mail today Saturday 8/23

SRD · Aug 23, 2014

ShallNotInfringe said:
HQL count estimates for FY 2014:

~ 4300 (10/1/13 - 12/31/13)
~ 9800 (1/1/14 - 6/30/14)

Totals: ~14,100

Rut roh, the budget estimate was for 65,990. .

(My estimate (back in February) was 12,442....). Which was a heck of a lot closer.

Wonder how they're going to make that up?

More than 50,000 hql's less at $50 each is a >$2.5 M shortfall on HQL fees.

What a CF.

cap6888 · Aug 25, 2014

its funny how things work. I applied 8/8, things went quick at first, then a stand still. When I emailed saying that others who applied after ma have already received their cards, boom. An email reply this morning says that my app was reviewed and approved. Now, to make it over to 2A and see if they still have the pistol I have been hankering for.

OneOfAKynde · Aug 25, 2014

Application\License Fee Completed Aug/17/14
MVA Photo Completed Aug/18/14
LiveScan Completed Aug/18/14
NICS Completed Aug/18/14
CJIS Completed Aug/18/14
MAFSS Completed Aug/18/14
METERS Completed Aug/18/14
JIS Completed Aug/18/14
DJS Not Applicable Aug/18/14
DHMH Completed Aug/18/14

Application went to "Active" status on Aug/19/2014. Received card in mail today Aug/25/2014. Took 5-6 business days to have the card in hand.

I was not training exempt. Took the "free" course at MSAR. And I have a rather unique name.

Husband submitted application the same time as me. He has a VERY common name and his application is still incomplete. Called MDSP and they said it's still processing.

foxtrapper · Aug 26, 2014

I'm getting bored with my present guns, so I'm thinking about getting the damned HQL so that when things pick up for me again money wise I can get rid of boredom via The Bank here in town. Can you get fingerprinted at the MVA plus get the pic done there at the same time? Or do I have to go to 2 different places, MVA and my pick of Bel Air place or Elkton place for prints ( which I again have to go look up...)? I already have owned handguns before 10/1/13 and still have the MSP form copies for them, so that exempts me from the training requirement still, right? Can you print the app online and take it filled out to any MSP barracks? (There's one in North East). Do the pics and prints first, then go to MSP barracks in person with app and pic?

Egads, this is more complicated than getting a FL ccw lisc...

Vile Shadow · Aug 27, 2014

foxtrapper said:
I'm getting bored with my present guns, so I'm thinking about getting the damned HQL so that when things pick up for me again money wise I can get rid of boredom via The Bank here in town. Can you get fingerprinted at the MVA plus get the pic done there at the same time? Or do I have to go to 2 different places, MVA and my pick of Bel Air place or Elkton place for prints ( which I again have to go look up...)?

First, you have to find a place that uses Livescan, and then give them the following, as it appears on the MSP website......

Agency Authorization Number: 1300004845
Agency ORI Number: MD920511Z
Reason Fingerprinted: MD Public Safety Article, Section 5-117.1 pertaining to Handgun Qualification License.

Moving right along...

I already have owned handguns before 10/1/13 and still have the MSP form copies for them, so that exempts me from the training requirement still, right?

Yes. You'll need the make, model, caliber, and serial number of a handgun you currently own.

Can you print the app online and take it filled out to any MSP barracks? (There's one in North East). Do the pics and prints first, then go to MSP barracks in person with app and pic?

No. You can only do the app online. On the receipt you get after you're fingerprinted, you'll find something called a "process control number". You will need this because it's a required field on the online app form.

Egads, this is more complicated than getting a FL ccw lisc...

Well, the "online only" crap is one of the untold designs of the law. The Politburo knows not everyone has a computer, or knows how to use one, and some don't want to deal with online forms. So that provides the dubious benefit of less people interested in buying handguns.

Pinecone · Aug 27, 2014

foxtrapper said:
I'm getting bored with my present guns, so I'm thinking about getting the damned HQL so that when things pick up for me again money wise I can get rid of boredom via The Bank here in town. Can you get fingerprinted at the MVA plus get the pic done there at the same time? Or do I have to go to 2 different places, MVA and my pick of Bel Air place or Elkton place for prints ( which I again have to go look up...)? I already have owned handguns before 10/1/13 and still have the MSP form copies for them, so that exempts me from the training requirement still, right? Can you print the app online and take it filled out to any MSP barracks? (There's one in North East). Do the pics and prints first, then go to MSP barracks in person with app and pic?

Egads, this is more complicated than getting a FL ccw lisc...

In Harford Co, you can go to the MVA office in Bel Air for the fingerprints. You have to call the MSP and make an appointment.

No picture required, the pull your last DL photo off the system.

All you need is the serial number off a regulated firearm that you own to be exempt from the training.

You apply all online. NO paper apps needed.

Z_Man · Aug 27, 2014

I got my HQL card in the mail on monday 8/25, i did my fingerprints and applied on monday the 18th.

BTW, is it just me or is the HQL card the ugliest cheapest POS you've ever seen? i mean my college Id's looked more legitimate than this thing

Worm5406 · Aug 27, 2014

I did the same, friendly e-mail (Mon late afternoon) asking if there was anything I messed up on with the tracking numbers. Got an e-mail (Tue early am) back stating no everything was good. System updated late Tue with completed. Yeah!

#0110xx

Ohh dates:

8/04 Fingerprints
8/05 Clicked complete on application
8/06 All completed except CJS NCIS
8/25 pm -- friendly e-mail sent
8/26 am -- response that all was ok with paper work
8/26 pm -- Active

Now to see how long it takes to get mailed to me.

foxtrapper · Aug 27, 2014

Who do you call to get MSP appt for prints at Bel Air MVA? Is there a specific # for just that? Is it MSP who does the printing there generally?

Looks like my worst hitch in all this is the livescan appt, rest is online work. Do you pay the 50.00 online too? How do you pay the livescan fee- at the appt/place? Checks only?

Link for the HQL app form?

jmcgonig · Aug 27, 2014

Fingerprints 8/21
Applied 8/21
Active 8/22

Just waiting on the mail. Much faster than I thought.

Worm5406 · Aug 27, 2014

foxtrapper said:
Who do you call to get MSP appt for prints at Bel Air MVA? Is there a specific # for just that? Is it MSP who does the printing there generally?

Looks like my worst hitch in all this is the livescan appt, rest is online work. Do you pay the 50.00 online too? How do you pay the livescan fee- at the appt/place? Checks only?

Link for the HQL app form?

https://emdsp.mdsp.org/egov/Login.aspx

There are links right below the login information about the fingerprinting, and who is authorized to perform it.

Vile Shadow · Aug 27, 2014

foxtrapper said:
Who do you call to get MSP appt for prints at Bel Air MVA? Is there a specific # for just that? Is it MSP who does the printing there generally?

I don't think so. Whenever I renew my hazmat endorsement it's never a trooper doing my prints.

Looks like my worst hitch in all this is the livescan appt, rest is online work.

If you're up to the hike, here's who I used. No appointment necessary, and they take cash.

http://www.absoluteisi.com/fingerprinting.html

Do you pay the 50.00 online too?

Yes. You have to pay the MSP when you do the app.

How do you pay the livescan fee- at the appt/place? Checks only?

See above.

Link for the HQL app form?

See Worm's link. You must create an account though before you can proceed.

foxtrapper · Aug 28, 2014

Is Absolute Investigative Services in Bel Air still doing them for the HQL? Need appt for them or can you walk in during their regular hours?

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