Franklin Armory Binary Trigger

SCARCQB · Feb 1, 2016

Called them up. Won't rate customer service as stellar. They said they will get back with me with a response and an rma number when they get to my email. But I was already on the phone with them and sounds like they didn't want to resolve this with any kind of urgency.

You get one chance to make a first impression.

j_h_smith · Feb 1, 2016

SCARCQB said:
Called them up. Won't rate customer service as stellar. They said they will get back with me with a response and an rma number when they get to my email. But I was already on the phone with them and sounds like they didn't want to resolve this with any kind of urgency.

You get one chance to make a first impression.

Done, they'll never get any of my business. You're on the phone with them and they blow you off like that. Nope, no way. Like you said, they had 1 chance at making a first impression and they blew it.

SCARCQB · Feb 1, 2016

j_h_smith said:
Done, they'll never get any of my business. You're on the phone with them and they blow you off like that. Nope, no way. Like you said, they had 1 chance at making a first impression and they blew it.

Update...
I did get an email response from franklin armory this evening, they apologized for what happened and promised to make things right. I was issued a UPS label and an RMA number. I'll be sending the incomplete trigger back tomorrow. Let's see the response time.

The email response was satisfactory, but the person that answered the phone this am did not do much for first jmpressions.

Boss94 · Feb 1, 2016

I think they shipped you the LX model !! ;-)

SCARCQB · Feb 1, 2016

Boss94 said:
I think they shipped you the LX model !! ;-)

It's the type that drops into an 80 percent lower.

carpecervisi · Feb 4, 2016

Sorry to hear this, SCARCQB. Hopefully they get their act together, I'm still hopeful this was worth my money. Meh, it only cost $2NFAS (two NFA stamps).

SCARCQB · Feb 4, 2016

carpecervisi said:
Sorry to hear this, SCARCQB. Hopefully they get their act together, I'm still hopeful this was worth my money. Meh, it only cost $2NFAS (two NFA stamps).

I sent the incomplete unit back two days ago via prepaid USP service. FA stated that they will make things right. But no mention of when they are shipping the replacement unit out.

I hope it's not another 8 week wait.

forkauto · Feb 4, 2016

I ordered mine around the same time you did. Hopefully mine arrives soon and is proper

SCARCQB · Feb 6, 2016

Just got home and look what the postman brought today.

protegeV · Feb 6, 2016

turnaround time wasn't bad at all :thumbsup:

engineerbrian · Feb 6, 2016

Cool! Even got a free shirt for your trouble :thumbsup:

SCARCQB · Feb 7, 2016

Turn around was really fast. Franklin armory did make things right.

Okay. I did break out the dremel and had to open up my registered SBR receiver to fit the trigger group. The receiver was easier to mill than messing with the trigger housing. Ill just cerakote it later.Took me several hours of hand fitting to get things right. Nice thing about the tight receiver is that it is snug and doesn't require any shims. The rear, sides and front had to be opened up. A dremel with a small drum sander made quick work of it.

If the trigger drops in without resistance or is too loose, FA provided shims that will support the trigger group from the bottom.I did not need them as I hand fitted everything.
FA should modify the design and use set screws instead of shims, similar to the elftmann triggers.

The trigger in semi auto feels like a standard military trigger. Nothing bad or special about it. In binary mode, it's feels weird. Same feel as in semi, but the hammer dropping on the release will need some time to get used to. Reset is a tad longer and a bit gritty. This should loosen up with use. Operating the selector also feels a bit strange. Its still tight, isn't as tactile as standard triggers.this should also loosen up with use. And I intend to use this toy.

Installing the trigger in non mil spec lowers can be a pain in the rear. If you're not mechanically inclined, I suggest a gunsmith or sending your lower to FA to get the BFS factory installed.

The trigger pack fits in a armalite, bushmaster,bcm, sun devil, Anderson, ares( those are the only pre ban receivers i have).will not fit in a colt, sgw, Olympic without milling or fitting. My SBR project is an older SGW register SBR lower. Bought during the Clinton assault weapons ban. So it's almost as bad as the colt, in terms of having the lower blocked to prevent the use of a dias or rll.

SCARCQB · Feb 7, 2016

The bare aluminum areas required milling. Non spec lower. But I wanted it in an SBR.

Kns pins are also a good idea. I ordered a set, just to make sure the pins don't walk during use.

SCARCQB · Feb 7, 2016

I'll try to test fire it tomorrow ��

I have also used a Troy stock as that system has a lighter bolt carrier and no separate buffer. The lighter bolt carrier may help in resolving the issue of the operator outrunning the action.

I'm not really speedy Gonzales on the trigger, this may not be an issue for me. I just want the ability to do fast double taps.

SCARCQB · Feb 7, 2016

protegeV said:
turnaround time wasn't bad at all

Yup, they did give me a free shirt. :thumbsup:

SCARCQB · Feb 7, 2016

The second one is going on an ARES MCR belt fed. That will be a simpler install as the trigger drops in without milling. I'm just not sure if the MCRs bolt group is light enough to run with the trigger. I'll have to experiment using the SBR as a test platform.

carpecervisi · Feb 10, 2016

Glad it worked out and excited to hear the range report. Hopefully I won't have to mill out my Engage E4 lower.

SCARCQB · Feb 10, 2016

From what I'm reading, the bfs works well with a lighter bolt carrier and light buffer, stronger spring. It seems that the troy stock is perfect for it. We will see on friday. Its range day.

BradMacc82 · Feb 10, 2016

SCARCQB said:
From what I'm reading, the bfs works well with a lighter bolt carrier and light buffer, stronger spring. It seems that the troy stock is perfect for it. We will see on friday. Its range day.

Of course that's a day I have to work...

lennyk · Feb 11, 2016

SCARCQB said:
Turn around was really fast. Franklin armory did make things right.

I did break out the dremel and had to open up my registered SBR receiver to fit the trigger group.

Wow, sir, you have cahones to take a dremel to what looks like a Noveske receiver that has been SBR'd. I am impressed. I am fairly skilled mechanically speaking, but I am impressed.

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