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Old May 23rd, 2019, 06:58 AM #1
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Time to see if MSP does things right

Well,

Yesterday afternoon, I dropped off my MilSpec+ Daniel Defense M4V7P 300 BLK w/ LAW folding arm brace to the MSP policy team for forensics test and submission for approved pistol registry.

I suppose I understand the concept that 300 BLK is a more powerful round compared to 223 / 556...

I find it somewhat laughable that their concern is for the safety / integrity of the barrel and platform with the higher power round. #1 - Daniel Defense is not some fly by night company. #2 - they already have the MK18 300 BLK approved, which uses the exact same barrel and lower.

I do not much care for this process...as a law-abiding citizen, I have to maintain some trust they will do their job.

Humorously, the sworn that checked the weapon before we went into Building B was very much enjoying my weapon. In the policy office, while the other gentleman drew up my hand receipt...he couldn’t stop playing with it. I graciously accepted his compliments.

At the end, I was informed that the testing would happen between now and early / mid June when the review panel meets. Assuming it is approved, it then has to be added to the registry before they can release it to my FFL. Apparently, I cannot personally retrieve the weapon from them directly.

Long and short...I am going to be weaponless until likely some time in mid to late JULY!? FFS...

Hmmm...might be time to pick up that Gen 5 Glock 19.


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Old May 23rd, 2019, 07:17 AM #2
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Good luck. I suppose it's better they liked your gun rather than made anti gun comments though....
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Old May 23rd, 2019, 07:23 AM #3
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The whole process is a crime , the local & federal government is not my parent(s) and what has this world come to when a grown man or women needs to get permission .
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Old May 23rd, 2019, 07:36 AM #4
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welder516, dude...you are on the money. Especially as we go into THIS weekend. Memorial weekend. “Oh, we trust you well enough to go to war, get shot...maybe die. We’re just not so sure about your retail purchasing decisions....”

Really!?
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welder516, dude...you are on the money. Especially as we go into THIS weekend. Memorial weekend. “Oh, we trust you well enough to go to war, get shot...maybe die. We’re just not so sure about your retail purchasing decisions....”

Really!?
I do wish you success , but with my several years dealing with the MSP-LD that is why i am so jaded .
They are a bunch of hacks IMHO and are following that hole named Frosh
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Just out of curiosity... Does MSP have a set of published guidelines from MGA they use to determine whether or not a firearm is permitted to be included on the registry, or do they just make it up?
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From what I can tell from the minutes they fire the weapon and function test it. I dont think a modern weapon has failed to make the roster. I have seen one or two need multiple tests/meetings- based on the minutes the magazines would not seat right and the gun jammed.

The original (real) intent was to ban handguns slowly, like the CA roster is doing. "Safety" was always a pretext.

But the (ironic) truth is the hamdgun roster process is way more scientific than the scary black rifle banned list. There is no safe with actual examples of the enumerated banned weapons, so when they say something is a copy they are literally making shit up from a Google search for the most part. In many cases they have been proven wrong.

There are other Daniel Defense AR pistols on the roster, I have no doubt this one will make it too. There are not a lot of AR pistols on the roster because I think most people build them.
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Just out of curiosity... Does MSP have a set of published guidelines from MGA they use to determine whether or not a firearm is permitted to be included on the registry, or do they just make it up?
I didn't think the MSP had anything to do with it. I thought it was a board appointed by the Governor?
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I was trying to find the thread about the ATI GSG MP40. I found this instructive (from 2017):

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Well, after failing on 6/22 for being unable to chamber a round, and failing again on 8/30 for being unable to extract a round, it looks like the GSG MP40P https://www.americantactical.us/5721/detail.html has finally passed the MD Roster Board, it is now listed on the MD Register from 11/27 http://www.dsd.state.md.us/MDR/4424.pdf p1168
So it looks like in 30-60 days, or however long it takes, these should finally be available for sale in MD
They do test things, and test them again. But as far as I can tell things eventually pass.
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Sounds like prima nocta to me.
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