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Old May 4th, 2021, 02:27 PM #1
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Is Frederick County any better?

Montgomery County resident since '83, thinking about buying a small, detached, house somewhere less crowded and not as loud and annoying. I much prefer a rural setting to an urban one, especially in my limited, lower, price range. I need to be within a reasonable driving distance to my elderly parents in Bethesda.

From a 2A perspective, is Frederick County any better than Montgomery? I believe the Sheriff is the person who decides just how hard to push the issues, and realize that it's an elected position, but seeing that Frederick is more rural, and rural folks generally respect and value independence more than those in the city, or the suburban hood, I figured I'd ask the question. If it weren't for my parents, I'd be looking at other states.

Feel free to recommend alternative places, cities, counties, neighboring states, etc. that an independent, freedom-loving, hardworking, God-Fearing, educated, person, with no reason to fear the police, might find attractive to live in.

Thanks in advance for the suggestions!
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Montgomery County resident since '83, thinking about buying a small, detached, house somewhere less crowded and not as loud and annoying. I much prefer a rural setting to an urban one, especially in my limited, lower, price range. I need to be within a reasonable driving distance to my elderly parents in Bethesda.

From a 2A perspective, is Frederick County any better than Montgomery? I believe the Sheriff is the person who decides just how hard to push the issues, and realize that it's an elected position, but seeing that Frederick is more rural, and rural folks generally respect and value independence more than those in the city, or the suburban hood, I figured I'd ask the question. If it weren't for my parents, I'd be looking at other states.

Feel free to recommend alternative places, cities, counties, neighboring states, etc. that an independent, freedom-loving, hardworking, God-Fearing, educated, person, with no reason to fear the police, might find attractive to live in.

Thanks in advance for the suggestions!
The current sheriff is good on 2A but Frederick is becoming increasingly liberal so who knows how long that will last. Definitely better than MoCo at any rate.

I'm sure you know that the real estate market is absolutely insane right now. Depending on your price range finding a decent detached house in a more rural setting with a bit of yard is nearly impossible right now. I have been looking for about 2 years. Now we're probably moving to WV since we can't find anything here. The market is still bad there so we aren't currently finding anything there either.

What is your price range for a house and what are you looking for in lot size, garage or no, etc?

To give you an idea, I have a search set on an area including Frederick almost to Hagerstown and from Jefferson to north of Thurmont. Approximately 425 square miles of search area. The only filters on the search are $450K or less, has a garage, and .5 acres or more. Currently there are only 4 homes for sale meeting that description. If I raise the price limit to 600K then there are 11. So there is essentially nothing for sale.

The average single family home in Frederick county now sells for ~480K as of April 15th, probably more now, and most of them are on lots substantially smaller than half an acre. 0.1 to 0.2 is common and these houses are in the neighborhood of 500K now.

EDIT: If you would like to talk to a realtor about what you are looking for I can point you to a good friend of mine who works in the area and is very good at his job. Let me know if you would like his info.
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Sorry to pile on but Budman is right on the button.
I live in Frederick county in a neighborhood not bad, but have been looking for something that provides some level of separation from the neighbors. 2 years ago interesting places would pop up now and again.
Now its a bidding war for almost anything that goes for sale. I have given up on making it a primary residence and expanded my searches beyond Hagerstown and into WV. for weekend cabin and land nothing yet or nothing reasonable yet.
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House pricing will not be much better in Frederick. PA or South VA are better places to go if doable.
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Frederick County "used" to be good. Lived here all my life, seen it gradually
decline, farm land is slowly going away giving the rise to developments. Cousin's
farm ain't nothing but towne houses, etc. With the influx of people from MoCo,
some with their higher than now "tudes" Taxes are Constantly going up. It is
better than MoCo (my opinion) the farther out you go, Thrumont, Hagerstown, WVa.
the better. The market is just "crazy" around here. Some of the prices are off the hook.
We have decided to vacant Frederick County and Maryland all together, moving south
have had basically enough. Just my .25 worth...

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We may be putting ours on the market, if we find a suitable replacement in Tennessee. Definitely rural 2 acres.
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We may be putting ours on the market, if we find a suitable replacement in Tennessee. Definitely rural 2 acres.
I hear ya... moving to S.C here currently looking and have been looking, found
3 possibilities 5 acres, 8 acres and 11 acres 2 have "nice" garages, one is a custom house with office, hot/cold water,
bathroom in the garage, nice garage, we figure to sell here and what we get here will pay off the little bit of money
and pay for the house in S.C with no mortgage...(Yeah) biggest thing is finding something we both like.

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Frederick County "used" to be good. Lived here all my life, seen it gradually
decline, farm land is slowly going away giving the rise to developments. Cousin's
farm ain't nothing but towne houses, etc. With the influx of people from MoCo,
some with their higher than now "tudes" Taxes are Constantly going up. It is
better than MoCo (my opinion) the farther out you go, Thrumont, Hagerstown, WVa.
the better. The market is just "crazy" around here. Some of the prices are off the hook.
We have decided to vacant Frederick County and Maryland all together, moving south
have had basically enough. Just my .25 worth...

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Amazing how when we moved here to Myersville 31 years ago the developer was giving away a car to each person that bought a house in Ashley subdivision. Then little by little the MoCo crew started moving in. Wanting to change their new developments into what they just left. “What, no community pool”, “What, no community ball fields”. And next thing you know you get zoned wetland areas made into baseball fields. Thanks for ruining the country!
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Thanks guys, please keep the feedback coming in, especially as it applies to any benefits or advantages, in prices, conservative values, taxes, etc., not only for counties in MD, but also to moving to a neighboring state, such as VA, WV, and even PA.

I've maintained a real estate license and done business since 2002, but almost exclusively in high density Montgomery County, so I have very limited experience with wells, septic systems, perc tests, propane, permitting, etc., all of which I'm slowly researching.

I know how tight the market has been and am planning for when prices eventually drop, which I suspect will be some time next year. I currently have a townhouse, that, aside from the neighbors, suits me quite well; so there's no urgent need to move; just a desire. I'd like to keep things under $450K, but do not require a specific size lot, square footage, garage, build date, or even condition, etc. It's just me and the GF; no kids, or even dogs. Ideally, it would be a 2-3BD, 2BA+ rambler with a 1-2 car garage, but I'm willing to compromise. Also, I prefer to do the remodeling myself, instead of buying these houses that people are flipping, which all look the same on the inside, light grey paint, wood-look vinyl planks, cheap stainless appliances.

Moderators, feel free to move the thread as you see fit, if it has wandered off topic.

Thanks again for the continued feedback!
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Frederick County has become Montgomery County Lite. It used to be quite conservative but so many Liberal Locusts have moved in to escape DC, MoCo, and Baltimore they're taking over steadily. These transplants tend to have higher incomes and since Frederick County is cheaper to live comparatively, the transplants want the same services they had before and the long-time residents are getting taxed out of existence.

My parents left Montgomery County for Frederick in 1966 due to the high taxation there...Frederick is catching up quickly.
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