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Old May 4th, 2021, 05:32 PM #11
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I have a Springfield XDM-Elite. I have tried different ammo, especially since I just try to pick up what I can find but there are only a couple of ranges that let you shoot those and it just seems to jam the case in the slide. NOT something I like to see happen. lol

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I shoot steel cased in my XD-s for practice. Never had a jam. But is it a .45, so...
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Old May 4th, 2021, 05:36 PM #12
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Some of the steel cased 9mm I have run has a rim that is too thick for some extractors to grab and will cause jams.
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Iím in the same boat with an excess of steel cased 9mm. I have ran it through glocks with no issue. If it cycles it with no issue why not just use it as range ammo. Mine in non corrosive so I really donít see the harm.
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Old May 4th, 2021, 06:18 PM #14
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It shouldn't matter to ranges if you shoot steel cased ammo, only if there is a steel core in the bullet. Some employees may not know the difference.
I wish that were true (that it shouldn't matter...).
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Steel Cases VS Brass Cases

Call me OS I do not like steel ammo cases, the fact the steel is not as forgiving as brass. Based on my metallurgy experience and training the heating of steal cases can cause brittleness and fractures far less than brass does.

Brass can be annealed to correct hardness as the grain structure is much different than steel. Steel cased can be heated to be softer however they then are prone to cracking . Steel has become more popular for ammo cases because it is cheaper to produce than brass cases.

Steel cases do have a higher strength than brass and that is why the military uses steel for large ammo 50 caliber and above. Also, they do not intend for the cases to be reused.

If you intend to reload steel cases you will need to pay real close attention to their condition. Also steel cases are a bitch on reloading dies. Another thought if you do not buy them the manufactures will not make them.
Just my thoughts.
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Call me OS I do not like steel ammo cases, the fact the steel is not as forgiving as brass. Based on my metallurgy experience and training the heating of steal cases can cause brittleness and fractures far less than brass does.

Brass can be annealed to correct hardness as the grain structure is much different than steel. Steel cased can be heated to be softer however they then are prone to cracking . Steel has become more popular for ammo cases because it is cheaper to produce than brass cases.

Steel cases do have a higher strength than brass and that is why the military uses steel for large ammo 50 caliber and above. Also, they do not intend for the cases to be reused.

If you intend to reload steel cases you will need to pay real close attention to their condition. Also steel cases are a bitch on reloading dies. Another thought if you do not buy them the manufactures will not make them.
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Most of what you state has nothing to do with firing the steel cases ammo.

It could be a factor for reloading.

And by the way, steel can also be annealed. But it can also be tempered.

Also, US 50 cal is brass cased. And many of the larger rounds are aluminum cased.

And 105mm howitzer rounds are brass. As were the Navy 5 inch 38 caliber AA guns.

What large caliber rounds are specifically steel cased?
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Iíve had and do shoot A LOT of steel cases ammo. Iíve never had an issue with in in any firearm.
Iíve heard itís harder on your extractors, as steel doesnít expand and contract like brass does.
If you shoot enough/often I figured if shooting steel cased ammo cost me the price of and extractor every once in a while, Iím still to the good. Extractors are usually a cheap part, and Iíll more than save my money shooting steel cases. So far, I havenít replaced an extractor yet. Been shooting steel cases ammo since the mid 1990ís.
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Iíve had and do shoot A LOT of steel cases ammo. Iíve never had an issue with in in any firearm.
Iíve heard itís harder on your extractors, as steel doesnít expand and contract like brass does.
If you shoot enough/often I figured if shooting steel cased ammo cost me the price of and extractor every once in a while, Iím still to the good. Extractors are usually a cheap part, and Iíll more than save my money shooting steel cases. So far, I havenít replaced an extractor yet. Been shooting steel cases ammo since the mid 1990ís.
And you shoot caseless ammo, too. Black powder. So it all evens out!
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And you shoot caseless ammo, too. Black powder. So it all evens out!
You got me there!
I do love the smell of black powder being burned! Lol
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