military primer removal

buellsfurn · Jul 6, 2019

did a little search didn't see anything other then swagging .My question what do you use to remove military crimped primers ring type crimp not the three staked crimp that's another post for another day( hope not ) Other then expand decap. die. (edit Boxer primer 223)

DaemonAssassin · Jul 6, 2019

Are you asking about Boxer or Berdan primed?

buellsfurn · Jul 6, 2019

DaemonAssassin said:
Are you asking about Boxer or Berdan primed?

sorry boxer

GunBum · Jul 6, 2019

I decap with a universal decapping die (Lee) or the resizing die and then swage the pocket with an RCBS pocket swager.

DaemonAssassin · Jul 6, 2019

buellsfurn said:
sorry boxer

A primer crimp reaming tool. You can get a Lyman knee for about 10 bucks. They come in small pocket and large pocket. Check Midway for them. If you have a ton of brass to process get a Dillon Super Swage.

John from MD · Jul 6, 2019

Staking the primer is done in several different ways. No matter which way, you still take it out in either of two ways. 1, you can swage out the crimp with a swage die or 2, you can cut it out with the same chamfering tool you use on case mouths. I mount my chamfering tool in my lathe and do volume work when I have to cut crimps. You could probably do the same thing with a drill or drill press if the jaws open far enough to hold the chamfering tool.

Furious George · Jul 6, 2019

98% of the time a regular sizing die will work.

When I first started reloading I used a Lee Decapper but then discovered it really was not necessary. Have not used mine in 20+ years.

I've never encountered a 5.56 case that could not be deprimed with a normal sizing die.

In 25+ years the only hopeless case were some 8MM cases that were so heavily crimped that the decapping pin just punched through the primer without removing it.

Once out the crimp can be swaged out or just use a Lyman primer pocket tool.

buellsfurn · Jul 6, 2019

John from MD said:
Staking the primer is done in several different ways. No matter which way, you still take it out in either of two ways. 1, you can swage out the crimp with a swage die or 2, you can cut it out with the same chamfering tool you use on case mouths. I mount my chamfering tool in my lathe and do volume work when I have to cut crimps. You could probably do the same thing with a drill or drill press if the jaws open far enough to hold the chamfering tool.

i have the rcbs swagging tool its the getting spent primer out im looking for

inkd · Jul 6, 2019

buellsfurn said:
i have the rcbs swagging tool its the getting spent primer out im looking for

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1011183740/lee-universal-depriming-and-decapping-die

This will work if you just want to pop out the primer without sizing. I may have one in the spare room if you want to give it a try? I think you will need a shell holder though.

buellsfurn · Jul 6, 2019

inkd said:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1011183740/lee-universal-depriming-and-decapping-die

This will work if you just want to pop out the primer without sizing. I may have one in the spare room if you want to give it a try? I think you will need a shell holder though.

that will work sir thank you again

buellsfurn · Jul 6, 2019

Furious George said:
98% of the time a regular sizing die will work.

When I first started reloading I used a Lee Decapper but then discovered it really was not necessary. Have not used mine in 20+ years.

I've never encountered a 5.56 case that could not be deprimed with a normal sizing die.

In 25+ years the only hopeless case were some 8MM cases that were so heavily crimped that the decapping pin just punched through the primer without removing it.

Once out the crimp can be swaged out or just use a Lyman primer pocket tool.

Im in 223 556 now but i have 8mm 30.06 thank you
Inkd and yourself suggested the same thing lee de caping die its a go everything i was watching reading said you would could break the decap. pin so i didn't try it

John from MD · Jul 6, 2019

buellsfurn said:
i have the rcbs swagging tool its the getting spent primer out im looking for

I use a cheap Lee universal de priming die for getting them out.

buellsfurn · Jul 6, 2019

John from MD said:
I use a cheap Lee universal de priming die for getting them out.

ya thats what checking out now Thank you John July 20 th

John from MD · Jul 6, 2019

Got it on my calendar!

Art3 · Jul 6, 2019

Soo...just to make sure I understand, because I had similar interests: The crimped or staked in primer is removed by normal decapping methods (the staking/crimping is just overcome by brute force), and then the pocket is fixed afterwards, correct?

buellsfurn · Jul 6, 2019

Art3 said:
Soo...just to make sure I understand, because I had similar interests: The crimped or staked in primer is removed by normal decapping methods (the staking/crimping is just overcome by brute force), and then the pocket is fixed afterwards, correct?

yes this lee universal de cap die is made of hardened steel used on military crimps or any de priming. i just ordered from amazon with extra pin for under 20. bucks ill have it Monday i have a rcbs prep station they have pocket cutter for it or rcbs swag die and if you really want to be cool get a rcbs pocket uniformer for the prep station or the hand tool . The real pro's will be along shortly

Postell · Jul 6, 2019

Furious George said:
98% of the time a regular sizing die will work.

When I first started reloading I used a Lee Decapper but then discovered it really was not necessary. Have not used mine in 20+ years.

I've never encountered a 5.56 case that could not be deprimed with a normal sizing die.

In 25+ years the only hopeless case were some 8MM cases that were so heavily crimped that the decapping pin just punched through the primer without removing it.

Once out the crimp can be swaged out or just use a Lyman primer pocket tool.

I'm with you, I never have understood depriming with a universal die when you can just use your full length die and do the job once instead of twice.
And with crimped brass I use a small base sizer.

Speed3 · Jul 6, 2019

Postell said:
I'm with you, I never have understood depriming with a universal die when you can just use your full length die and do the job once instead of twice.
And with crimped brass I use a small base sizer.

I used to deprime with full.length sizer until this year. I have a custom full length bushing die for my mid/long range guns. Broke my decapping rod and missed a shoot because I didnt have a spare.

Ordered universal decapper(with spare rods lol) and I like it better. I decap, clean primer pockets and tumble...so I can keep my sizing dies as clean as possible. Next love and size and packet to tumbler...primer pockets never been so clean

Postell · Jul 6, 2019

Speed3 said:
I used to deprime with full.length sizer until this year. I have a custom full length bushing die for my mid/long range guns. Broke my decapping rod and missed a shoot because I didnt have a spare.

Ordered universal decapper(with spare rods lol) and I like it better. I decap, clean primer pockets and tumble...so I can keep my sizing dies as clean as possible. Next love and size and packet to tumbler...primer pockets never been so clean

I find it funny that so many reloaders spend huge amounts of money on equipment and dont have 4 bags ( 20 bucks ) of decapping pins on their reloading bench.
I have many Redding Comp and wildcat bushing dies, in 40+ years I have never hurt a die. Do it twice if you want to, but there is no reason that one should.

Pinecone · Jul 7, 2019

Postell said:
I'm with you, I never have understood depriming with a universal die when you can just use your full length die and do the job once instead of twice.
And with crimped brass I use a small base sizer.

Because you break more decapping pins that way.

I have decapped a lot of military brass with a normal die, and broken a good number of pins.

With the Lee, no broken pins.

I would just not interrupt my flow to replace the pin.

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