Operation DINO - 2018

Thank you guys. Will permission to use that photo be necessary?

Mike said:

Thank you guys. Will permission to use that photo be necessary?

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That's awesome Mike. I'm going to wait to hear back from R&R before using. But it's a great sign and I sincerely thank you.

Mike said:

Here is my rookie attempt to provide a starting point addressing the suggestion for a gun shop handout. Maybe the "sign" could be the photo? The take-home sheets could be handed out for the person not acquainted with MDS. The photo included was pirated without permission, but it spoke to me. Is formal permission needed to use it? Click on the PDF file link, the included photo is what is being displayed below. Removed the file with the photos. I'll work up something with a different image for this.

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Any thoughts on congressional district 8? With Van Hollen out of the way it's wide open. I'm trying to figure out if I should back an R candidate and hope to ride the republican wave that got Hogan elected or become a DINO and find the lesser of the evils.

With the well known VanHollen out of the way it looks like Raskin is the only well known player.

From Ballotpedia:
Several Democratic candidates have filed for candidacy: David Anderson, Kumar Barve, Dan Bolling, Ana Sol Gutierrez, William Jawando, Kathleen Matthews, Jamie Raskin, Joel Rubin and David Trone.

Five Republican candidates have filed as well: Dan Cox, Jeffrey Jones, Elizabeth Matory, Aryeh Shudofsky and Shelly Skolnick.

Additionally, third-party candidates Charles Galloway (Green), Nancy Wallace (Green), Elizabeth Croydon (Green) and Jasen Wunder (Libertarian) are running."


I'll take the time to investigate each candidate, I was just wondering if anyone had any opinions in the mean time.

Kashmir1008 said:

Any thoughts on congressional district 8? With Van Hollen out of the way it's wide open. I'm trying to figure out if I should back an R candidate and hope to ride the republican wave that got Hogan elected or become a DINO and find the lesser of the evils.

With the well known VanHollen out of the way it looks like Raskin is the only well known player.

From Ballotpedia:
Several Democratic candidates have filed for candidacy: David Anderson, Kumar Barve, Dan Bolling, Ana Sol Gutierrez, William Jawando, Kathleen Matthews, Jamie Raskin, Joel Rubin and David Trone.

Five Republican candidates have filed as well: Dan Cox, Jeffrey Jones, Elizabeth Matory, Aryeh Shudofsky and Shelly Skolnick.

Additionally, third-party candidates Charles Galloway (Green), Nancy Wallace (Green), Elizabeth Croydon (Green) and Jasen Wunder (Libertarian) are running."


I'll take the time to investigate each candidate, I was just wondering if anyone had any opinions in the mean time.

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Right off I say that Kathleen Matthews, Jamie Raskin, and David Trone all need to be kept out. I also would appreciate advice on the least of the many evils being offered up on the D ticket.

I think I'm in the 8th. Hard to tell the way is it's gerrymandered or not in 8? What a Charlie Foxtrot.

Mike said:

Right off I say that Kathleen Matthews, Jamie Raskin, and David Trone all need to be kept out. I also would appreciate advice on the least of the many evils being offered up on the D ticket.

I think I'm in the 8th. Hard to tell the way is it's gerrymandered or not in 8? What a Charlie Foxtrot.

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Here, I think I found a web site the gives me a straight answer at the state level: http://mdelect.net/

Your Elected Officials

Governor: Lawrence J. Hogan, Jr.
Lt. Governor: Boyd K. Rutherford
Attorney General: Brian E. Frosh
Comptroller: Peter Franchot

US Senators:
Barbara A. Mikulski
Benjamin L. Cardin

US Representative (Maryland District 3):
John P. Sarbanes

State Senator (District 14):
Karen S. Montgomery

State Delegates (District 14):
Anne R. Kaiser
Eric G. Luedtke
Craig J. Zucker

Mike said:

Right off I say that Kathleen Matthews, Jamie Raskin, and David Trone all need to be kept out. I also would appreciate advice on the least of the many evils being offered up on the D ticket.

I think I'm in the 8th. Hard to tell the way is it's gerrymandered or not in 8? What a Charlie Foxtrot.

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Just finished looking through the Dems for district 8. It's appalling. There is no "lesser of two weavils" in this case.

They are all toeing the party line with "assault weapons bans" and "background checks for ammo" and "common sense background ....blah blah blah" and all the other mindless drivel.

The Repubs aren't much better.

- Dan Cox looks pretty good except he's going to be waaaay to conservative to win anything near MoCo

- Jeffery Jones sounds completely muddled and this sort of comment concerns me:

"I believe individual rights are important and worth having as the Constitution guarantees. But with those rights comes responsibility, and we need to figure the best way to strengthen responsibilities in order to keep the rights working."

hmm....

- Aryeh Shudofsky seems like a good guy but more of a policy wonk and not a word about firearms. Possibly a smart move on his part but I suspect he's never fire a gun iin his life.

- Shelly Skolnick - Not a word on second amendment, wants to focus on the Metro system, getting out of afghanistan and some other ideas that might be worth considering but not a word on 2A.

Maybe smart that these guys aren't talking 2A but I don't think any of the Repubs are organized enough to take MoCo.

Consider this just a rehearsal, the focus of this thread is the one that will matter, 2018.

Thanks for the input, we got our mail in ballots in the mail recently, haven't filled them out yet. Generally we are NOT voting for anyone we know that supports anti-2A, and generally NOT voting for any incumbent. I don't have an opinion the circuit Court judges, the judge I went running with (literally jogging together at Sandy Point) a few times seemed very nice and level headed.

Going to go uncommitted for the Presidential, it's looking more and more that it will come down to Clinton and Trump.


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Funny thing, I was called twice today and they even left a message asking me to be a judge at the election polls. I seriously considered it for about 2 minutes. Could you imagine, me representing the Dems as a poll judge; they would expect me to argue on their behalf. Although I know I would follow the rules to the letter, I might have an opportunity to use some 'judgement' and do not want to face any dilemma. I will not compromise my integrity, and having my morals clash with my integrity is a situation I do not want to be volunteering to be put in.

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Just finished looking through the Dems for district 8. It's appalling. There is no "lesser of two weavils" in this case.

They are all toeing the party line with "assault weapons bans" and "background checks for ammo" and "common sense background ....blah blah blah" and all the other mindless drivel.

The Repubs aren't much better.

- Dan Cox looks pretty good except he's going to be waaaay to conservative to win anything near MoCo

- Jeffery Jones sounds completely muddled and this sort of comment concerns me:

"I believe individual rights are important and worth having as the Constitution guarantees. But with those rights comes responsibility, and we need to figure the best way to strengthen responsibilities in order to keep the rights working."

hmm....

- Aryeh Shudofsky seems like a good guy but more of a policy wonk and not a word about firearms. Possibly a smart move on his part but I suspect he's never fire a gun iin his life.

- Shelly Skolnick - Not a word on second amendment, wants to focus on the Metro system, getting out of afghanistan and some other ideas that might be worth considering but not a word on 2A.

Maybe smart that these guys aren't talking 2A but I don't think any of the Repubs are organized enough to take MoCo.

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Thank you for the information. Nobody, D nor R, seems to be putting out any literature in our neighborhood. I'm only aware of the radio and TV carpet bombing by Trone the Drone and Mathews the Mouthpiece. Both rabidly anti 2A.

And I see what you did there on the bold part I've read all those books.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4PzpxOj5Cc

iH8DemLibz said:

I stood outside the Timonium gun show several years ago wearing a hunter orange, DINO, t-shirt.

Tried explaining DINO to folks and was handing out flyers.

99% of the people I spoke with either couldn't or refused to comprehend what I was saying.

I could have coated a million donuts with the amount of glaze that covered their eyes.

If you can't get folks to listen about their gun rights at a gun show, I don't know how to get folks to listen.

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All of their attention was on the loopholes they were there to take advantage of

Just arrived

Just received my new voter registration card. I am all set.

I'm a registered R in District 4, would it be better to stay an R or is it time to take one for the team and go DINO?

I hate this gerrymandering crap, why is Edwards My Rep? She's a PG county tool, and I have zilch in common with her or her base.

Pale Ryder said:

I'm a registered R in District 4, would it be better to stay an R or is it time to take one for the team and go DINO?

I hate this gerrymandering crap, why is Edwards My Rep? She's a PG county tool, and I have zilch in common with her or her base.

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Here is a way to look at it. If you have been gerrymandered, they have given you a tool to use.

Think about it, by going DINO, you are in a district where as a Republican you are effectively neutered, but as a DINO they have given you some power. Voting power.

As Minuteman mentioned, some of our worst antagonists could be removed on a local level in the primaries by your action. Just something to consider.

Mr H said:

Fixed it for you.

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Oops, thanks Mr H

mrgnstrn said:

OK Dino's...
I'm not convinced of this effort, but in the spirit of open-mindedness, here are all the ballots for the primary this April.

http://www.elections.state.md.us/elections/2016/primary_ballots/AnneArundel.pdf

Can you all coalesce on a single, non-incumbent, pro-2A democratic candidate for US Senate and your Congressional District?

This is the trial.
If this step cannot be done correctly, in unison, then the DINO2018 idea may not be workable.

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I think this previously made point must be reiterated. A single democrat candidate from each district would provide the strongest likelihood for success.

I think most would support Freddie Donald Dickson Jr (D), and apparently pro 2A, for Mikulski's seat in the US Senate.

Here are the remaining DEMOCRATIC candidates for US Congress by District in Maryland.

District 1 - Currently occupied by Republican Andrew P. Harris. Is his seat realistically threatened? If so choose a stooge from below.
Jim Ireton (D) - Salisbury City Councilman & Teacher
Joe Werner (D) - Attorney & Frequent Candidate

District 2 - C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger (D) incumbent and no democrat opponent

District 3 - John Sarbanes (D) incumbent
John Rea (D) - Salesman & Frequent Candidate

District 4 - [ Donna Edwards (D)* - Candidate for US Senate in 2016. ]
Anthony Brown (D) - Ex-Lt. Governor, Ex-House Majority Whip, Attorney, Iraq War Veteran & '14 Gov. Nominee
Warren Christopher (D) - Retired Army Officer, Iraq/Afghan War Veteran & '14 Candidate
Glenn Ivey (D) - Ex-Prince George's County State's Attorney & '12 Candidate
Joseline Peña-Melnyk (D) - State Del., Ex-College Park City Councilwoman & Attorney
Terence Strait (D) - Federal Employee, Psychologist & Progressive Activist

District 5 - Steny Hoyer (D)* - (House Minority Whip Site) incumbent
Kristin Beck (D) - Retired Navy SEAL & Transgender Activist *** My personal favorite!
Debbie Wilson (D) - Realtor

District 6 - John Delaney (D)* incumbent
Tony Puca (D) - Mortgage Loan Officer, Democratic Activist & Frequent Candidate

District 7 - Elijah Cummings (D)* incumbent
Adrian Petrus (D) - '08 Candidate

District 8 - [ Chris Van Hollen (D)* - Candidate for US Senate in 2016. ]
Dave Anderson (D) - College Professor & Non-Profit Group Executive
Kumar Barve (D) - State Del. & Ex-State House Majority Leader
Dan Bolling (D) - Retired Biotechnology Executive & '12 Candidate in Indiana
Ana Sol Gutierrez (D) - State Del., Ex-Montgomery County School Board Member & Computer Engineer
Will Jawando (D) - Ex-White House Aide, Ex-Congressional Aide, Attorney & '14 State Del. Candidate
Kathleen Matthews (D) - Ex-Hotel Chain Executive, Ex-TV News Anchor & Wife of TV Show Host Chris Matthews
Jamie Raskin (D) - State Senate Majority Whip & Attorney
Joel Rubin (D) - Foreign Policy Consultabt & Ex-US State Dept. Official
David Trone (D) - National Chain Wine Store Owner

If you don't know you're district, there's a nice map on Wikipedia.

You can also get that information from mdelect.net

But however folks get to it, it's better than not at all!

Congressional District 8

Why are so many interested in District 8? Literally 18 candidates!

Since it's my district and the primary is later this month (I know 2018 is the important one), I'd like to outline some of the democratic candidates. But what criteria is best to consider?

David M. Anderson - No 2A comments on website
Kumar P. Barve - No 2A comments
Dan Bolling - No comments; no website; last minute entry
Ana Sol Gutierrez - No comments
William Jawando - Anti 2a
Kathleen Matthews - Wife of celebrity, Anti 2A
Jamie Raskin - Anti 2A
Joel Rubin - Anti 2A
David Trone - Anti 2A


Dan Bolling seems to have the worst campaign at this time. All I see is a Linked in page, and he apparently submitted the application on the last possible day. I'm not sure if our support can help this guy.

The rest all have nice websites and Jawando, Matthews, Raskin, Rubin, Trone are all clearly anti-2A.

Anderson, Barve, Bolling, Gutierrez do not comment.

This Washington Post article suggests that Matthews, Raskin and Trone are the front runners.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...a1fb26-cb8f-11e5-ae11-57b6aeab993f_story.html

The republican opposition is available for your review at http://www.politics1.com/md.htm
Upon my review it seems only attorney Dan Cox is the only openly pro-second amendment candidate. Base on that, he's got my vote in November.

So, ultimately the question is, "Who can we put in the general election, in front of Matthews, Raskin, and Trone, to be overcome by Cox in November?"

I really look forward to your comments!

BTW, the sample ballots for District 5 arrived yesterday here at Chaos Manor.

Great discussion.

It's unlikely we'll find a pro-gun Dem willing to run overtly, much less get them elected. Many Democrats are pro-gun, pro-self defense. The problem is the instant they question the establishment Democrats currently crippling this state, they are threatened. The backward logic of disarming the law abiding will somehow make them safer is deeply entrenched. This issue is a simple truth, and any high schooler can research the facts are all on the side of natural self defense. Even the Republicans are afraid to mention that they are progun in Maryland.

Our goal is to vote out the entrenched incumbents, the establishment Democrats.

Today if you are a reasonable person elected to office, and you ran as a Democrat; it doesn't matter if you disagree with some of these gun bills, the bullies (some like MikeMiller have been in office since the 1970's) tell you how to vote on certain bills. They are undermining the entire proper process with their crooked politics.

They effectively take your vote away, by gerrymandering your voting district; cheating you again from being properly represented.

For the love of all that is right, register as a Democrat so in 2018 we all show up and vote out these crooked establishment Democrats, so the others will take notice. Together we can break this stranglehold they have on us.

Vote!

Mike said:

Right off I say that Kathleen Matthews, Jamie Raskin, and David Trone all need to be kept out.

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Absolutely.

Trone is anti-gun and doesn't allow carry in his stores (Total Wine).

Matthews is touting the party line on gun control.

And we know what we will get with Raskin. Although I've been having fun talking to him these last few weeks about gun stuff since he needs my vote (I'm a DINO).