CMP garands

scotty737 · Sep 28, 2021

I just received my cmp garands after about 5 months of waiting. Both from 1943, one with original barrel and one with a winchester. Anyone have any insight on them or are they just typical service grades.

Photos:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZzegMPhCi8NAszx5SN3w8HTJZVc1EFMp?usp=sharing

Thanks

bigmancrisler · Sep 28, 2021

scotty737 said:
I just received my cmp garands after about 5 months of waiting. Both from 1943, one with original barrel and one with a winchester. Anyone have any insight on them or are they just typical service grades.

Photos:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZzegMPhCi8NAszx5SN3w8HTJZVc1EFMp?usp=sharing

Thanks

Just from a quick glance, it looks like one of them has all matching SA parts. If so you got a winner.

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IronDuck · Sep 28, 2021

I cant tell you anything about them, but darn am I jealous you got two!

I thought CMP rated them prior to sending and issued a cert. with each one grading it? No?

Congrats, enjoy shooting them.

chriskat · Sep 28, 2021

They look like nice rifles regardless. I got lucky and received one of each manufacturer during the "luck of the draw" period. I think I did send a note in with the fourth one and they managed to send me what I asked for.

mac1_131 · Sep 28, 2021

One of them has an uncut op rod, which is interesting. Neither are original, but they both look nice. The SA over T cartouche is a SA rebuild mark.

Enjoy them!

Trepang · Sep 28, 2021

Nice!!!

Vietnam1965 · Sep 29, 2021

Very nice I love CMP guns congrats!

calicojack · Sep 29, 2021

Very nice!!

TOWcritter · Sep 29, 2021

I just got mine today....https://www.airgundepot.com/springfield-armory-m1a-underlever-wood-stock-air-rifle.html

Gmercury2000 · Oct 29, 2021

Looks like both have the correct barrels. Can't tell from the one pic but looks like the SA may have been reparked. Looks like the chamber is dark. Doesn't matter one way or another, still a nice piece. Both look like typical mix masters but mostly WW2 Era parts which is a plus. Congrats on both rifles.

6cylrider98 · Oct 31, 2021

Welcome to the Garand club..Ping! Nice rifles!

bigmancrisler · Oct 31, 2021

Taking my CMP garand out today for some Sunday fun!

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Ngrovcam · Oct 31, 2021

As many here know, just because a part is
marked, for example, “SA” for Springfield,
and all the other parts are SA, that does
not mean the parts are correct…gotta follow
heat lots, change numbers, etc. A
Springfield part, like a bolt, op rod, trigger housing, etc., made in ‘43 and one made in ‘53, are
still going to be marked SA. Question is,
are the parts correct to the receiver serial
number in terms of period of manufacture.
While there are many, many exceptions, and anomalies, very generally speaking most
original part rifles show parts all made with
three or four months, one way or the other,
of the date of manufacture of the receiver.
Also, the current finish of the parts counts:
Parked? Re-parked? Etc.

Half the fun in collecting Garands (and
carbines) in my limited experience, is
tracking down what is really “right” in an
original rifle. It can be real tough.

Good luck!!!

Batt816 · Oct 31, 2021

Ngrovcam said:
As many here know, just because a part is
marked, for example, “SA” for Springfield,
and all the other parts are SA, that does
not mean the parts are correct…gotta follow
heat lots, change numbers, etc. A
Springfield part, like a bolt, op rod, trigger housing, etc., made in ‘43 and one made in ‘53, are
still going to be marked SA. Question is,
are the parts correct to the receiver serial
number in terms of period of manufacture.
While there are many, many exceptions, and anomalies, very generally speaking most
original part rifles show parts all made with
three or four months, one way or the other,
of the date of manufacture of the receiver.
Also, the current finish of the parts counts:
Parked? Re-parked? Etc.

Half the fun in collecting Garands (and
carbines) in my limited experience, is
tracking down what is really “right” in an
original rifle. It can be real tough.

Good luck!!!

Good that you point that out. Some sellers on gunbroker should read what you say too. The other half of the fun is shooting them!

spoon059 · Oct 31, 2021

Valid points, but in reality, a "correct" Garand in my opinion is one that looks like an actual WW2 Garand... mixed parts from damaged guns that were assembled to keep them in the fight.

To me, that's worth more. I have a Winchester April 1943 receiver. It was made early enough that it could have been in my great uncle's hands in Italy in the fall of 1943 when he was critically wounded and his war ended.

The reality is that very few guns that saw action came back with all the same pieces that they were shipped with. The history is worth more to me than ask the parts matching!

But, for a decent price I'd willingly take a like new matching numbers Garand...

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Threeband · Oct 31, 2021

Most Garands were rebuilt after the war and got upgraded parts too, rear sights and gas cylinder locks, for example.

I've long said a Mixmaster is the proper GI rifle, if not "correct" by some artificial collector standard.

Also, Mixmasters have Hybrid Vigor. It's a law of biology.

offthepaper · Nov 3, 2021

I have a 43 SA that was one of the Danish returns about 12 years ago. A mix master for sure snd has more than a half dozen Beretta parts all over it. Still shoots great and i love it, mixed parts and all.
Enjoy your rifles.

calicojack · Nov 4, 2021

Threeband said:
Most Garands were rebuilt after the war and got upgraded parts too, rear sights and gas cylinder locks, for example.

I've long said a Mixmaster is the proper GI rifle, if not "correct" by some artificial collector standard.

Also, Mixmasters have Hybrid Vigor. It's a law of biology.

My IHC Garand has a IHC receiver and an IHC bolt; the rest is a bunch of everything else, including a new CMP walnut stock. Talk about a mutt. Nice looking mutt though.

Raiderjack23 · Nov 17, 2021

For anyone interested . . . CMP website is showing "Expert Grade M1 Garand" rifles in both 30-06 and .308 flavors. Both priced at $1000. It also looks like Special Rack is back in stock at $750

EXPERT GRADE .30-06 RIFLES will feature a NEW, Commercial-Production Stock Set and a NEW Commercial-Production barrel chambered for .30-06 Springfield. Bore condition will be “as new”, and barrels will gauge “as new”.

EXPERT308 GRADE RIFLES will feature a NEW, Commercial-Production Stock Set and a NEW Commercial-Production barrel chambered for .308 Winchester. Bore condition will be “as new”, and barrels will gauge “as new”.

UPSguy · Nov 24, 2021

I got my service grade 3 years ago. Came with new cmp stock and 1956 barrel. Serial number matched 1956 SA date. +1, 0 barrel ratings.

Got a Special grade 1953 early H&R 2 years ago for $1000. Came with new criterion barrel and new stock set

They look identical.. im jealous of your WW2 dated service grades with GI stocks. Great gamble.

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