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  • 2SAM22

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    Apr 4, 2007
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    Checked Hobby Lobby - nothing that worked there. Went to a local archery shop and they can custom order a half dozen Easton X10 target arrow shafts for over a hundred bucks per 1/2 dozen.

    I think the carbon fiber rod is the way to go, just need to source one that is close to .21mm OD so I can use them for both 22LR and .223. After about an hour of searching online this is all I can find. Not cheap but cheaper than the Easton arrow shaft. https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000BRLLAA

    I like these because rather than hollow they are solid but they don't offer the right size. http://www.acpsales.com/OnlineStore.php?cat=5321
     

    Sticky

    Beware of Dog
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    Mar 16, 2013
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    AA Co
    With a carbon fiber rod, you can likely go smaller than the min bore size (.22") for a 22cal, for example a .187" (or about 5mm) OD carbon fiber tube should be way stiffer than the std rifle rods. I know with archery shafts, they are way stiffer, not sure about commercial carbon fiber tubing. I can probably grap one, stick it down the bore and lift my rifle from the muzzle end using only the arrow shaft in my hand. They also have a rated stiffness, or deflection, as this is a primary component of the equation in choosing the proper arrow shaft for your particular bow setup and it's measurable and repeatable, may not matter for a rifle rod.

    I know the skinny arrows are also expensive, but that's because they are stiffer and straighter then a typical carbon tube (typically they run +/- .001" straightness over their length, which you pay for).
     

    2SAM22

    Moderator Emeritus
    Apr 4, 2007
    7,178
    With a carbon fiber rod, you can likely go smaller than the min bore size (.22") for a 22cal, for example a .187" (or about 5mm) OD carbon fiber tube should be way stiffer than the std rifle rods. I know with archery shafts, they are way stiffer, not sure about commercial carbon fiber tubing. I can probably grap one, stick it down the bore and lift my rifle from the muzzle end using only the arrow shaft in my hand. They also have a rated stiffness, or deflection, as this is a primary component of the equation in choosing the proper arrow shaft for your particular bow setup and it's measurable and repeatable, may not matter for a rifle rod.

    I know the skinny arrows are also expensive, but that's because they are stiffer and straighter then a typical carbon tube (typically they run +/- .001" straightness over their length, which you pay for).

    Yep, so that gives me some flexibility in finding the right size. I was thinking about going with a CF rod rather than a hollow tube hoping that would increase rigidity. I understand the higher price for an arrow shaft is due to the engineering but hoping the CF rod works. Worth a shot anyway.
     

    Pinecone

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    Feb 4, 2013
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    I have an archery shop and a Hobby Lobby fairly close by (but not to each other). I'm not an archery person but do you think the commercially available carbon fiber like at Hobby Lobby would be as stiff as an arrow rod?

    Carbon fiber rod and tube is carbon fiber rod and tube.

    They are basically the same stiffness for the same diameter.
     

    Pinecone

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    Feb 4, 2013
    28,175
    Checked Hobby Lobby - nothing that worked there. Went to a local archery shop and they can custom order a half dozen Easton X10 target arrow shafts for over a hundred bucks per 1/2 dozen.

    I think the carbon fiber rod is the way to go, just need to source one that is close to .21mm OD so I can use them for both 22LR and .223. After about an hour of searching online this is all I can find. Not cheap but cheaper than the Easton arrow shaft. https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000BRLLAA

    I like these because rather than hollow they are solid but they don't offer the right size. http://www.acpsales.com/OnlineStore.php?cat=5321

    http://www.acpsales.com/OnlineStore.php?cat=5321

    http://www.cstsales.com/carbon_rods.html
     

    2SAM22

    Moderator Emeritus
    Apr 4, 2007
    7,178
    thread resuscitation, what route did you go?

    http://www.cstsales.com/carbon_rods.html

    looking at this site suggestion, I'm considering the .08" or .098" dia rods



    afterthoughts or lessons learned in this project appreciated :popcorn:
    I bought a few carbon fiber rods, forget where from now. They work well biggest problem is attaching the wooden disk and velcro to the end.
    I used something like JB Weld. The peel and stick velcro doesn't hold up for too many uses before it detaches from the disk.
    Just haven't had time to mess with it any further.
     

    Applehd

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    Apr 26, 2012
    5,285
    Just for shits... I bought 3/16 rod at Homies and cut it in 3pcs... welded fender washers on one end... sprayed with Rustoleum bedliner and stick-on velcro on the washer. They seem to be working so far. This was only a test. I bought more.
     

    calicojack

    American Sporting Rifle
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    May 29, 2018
    5,348
    Cuba on the Chesapeake
    I take a different approach; I put each rifles in a gun sock and bundle them in groups of three with bungee cords. I then shove them all in the safe. I can pack a lot more rifles that way.
     

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