Virtue signaling.
Man arrested for DIAS Wall Hook
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Virtue signaling.
In the interests of the fleeting endorphin rush you get while flogging other people here, you're transparently pretending you don't know the difference between holding a principled position and recognizing current reality (with its attending legal jeopardy). Adults can make the distinction.
On MDS, thats a pretty high threshold to exceed. Bravo, Ducks!
But but, its a wall hook...
I have often thought about, though never acted on (cough, AFT leave me alone), this idea. I was wondering if something like using a HK auto sear pack for a push latch, push unlatch cabinet door was something that could be done. The answer is yes, as long as you don't own the actual gun. Like a MP5 or the sort.
Owning an auto sear by itself is not illegal as long as you don't own the firearm. The AFT would have to prove constructive intent. It's not clear to me how the seller is responsible for what folks do with the "coat hanger". If he owned an AR15 then sure, he is likely breaking some kind of unconstitutional law. I can mail order professional grade, purpose built, full auto parts (sears, trigger packs, etc.) on-line right now with no questions asked. (I haven't.) But, it's my responsibility as a gun owner to know and obey the law. NOT the seller.
I am not a lawyer so tell me I am wrong.
Owning an auto sear by itself is not illegal as long as you don't own the firearm. The AFT would have to prove constructive intent. It's not clear to me how the seller is responsible for what folks do with the "coat hanger". If he owned an AR15 then sure, he is likely breaking some kind of unconstitutional law. I can mail order professional grade, purpose built, full auto parts (sears, trigger packs, etc.) on-line right now with no questions asked. (I haven't.) But, it's my responsibility as a gun owner to know and obey the law. NOT the seller.
I am not a lawyer so tell me I am wrong.
randomuser
Ultimate Member
∆∆∆∆∆ this guy gets it.
What part of what the guy did wasn’t stupid? Asking for a friend.
randomuser
Ultimate Member
Mainly this
"A law passed that is out of sorts with the Constitution is in itself invalid."
Now don't get me wrong, the guy was stupid. I'm not saying he wasn't. I am however saying that if enough people thought that quote meant something a jury would not be able to convict...essentially making the invalid law, well...invalid.
As long as we the people side with the invalid law and the instructions from the judge....the guy will be guilty.
Also, don't forget...and this is most important>>>>>>someday our kids will get the same punishment for having a standard magazine as this guy got for what he had.(<<<that's the long game of our enemy)
I don’t think people here, generally, are siding with an unconstitutional law, just pointing out the brazen stupidity of the guy in the story. Yes, jury nullification on this would be a fantastic outcome. The chances of that are minuscule. There are battles worth fighting, risks worth taking, and some that just aren’t.
Calling people out as though they are somehow not in favor of the 2A as penned for making fun of this guy is just plain dumb. Just my opinion, and certainly meaning you no offense.
- Jul 29, 2014
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And ignorance is no excuse.
Biggfoot44
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Two different parallel discussions :
What ought to be under the law & the Constitution .
What is very predictable to result in your arrest and conviction .
If you WANT to engage in Civil Disobedience , persue a Test Case , etc , that is certainly within your Free Will . Just do so with your eyes open , and be prepared to carry through with the predictable results .
What ought to be under the law & the Constitution .
What is very predictable to result in your arrest and conviction .
If you WANT to engage in Civil Disobedience , persue a Test Case , etc , that is certainly within your Free Will . Just do so with your eyes open , and be prepared to carry through with the predictable results .
Nickberg500
Ultimate Member
It's sad the number of people cheering for this sick demonstration of unconstitutional enforcement from ATF. We can recognize the guy's failures without kicking him while he's down. It's this lack of resolve or care that allows the ATF and the NFA to even be a thing.
Who is cheering? People are mostly laughing at him for being an idiot. Police seize your homemade DIAS without a warrant from your home in the middle of the night? Infringement. You get arrested after putting your DIAS up for sale on Etsy? You are an idiot.
- Jul 29, 2014
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Can't fix ugly and you can't fix stupid. Just ask Lady GaGa.
Nickberg500
Ultimate Member
I'm just looking at it from a perspective of what this is about. A piece of plastic anyone can make with a 3d printer. He's dumb for getting caught selling these, but seriously, in a perfect world I don't think he should be charged for a crime. It's not even a firearm.
I don’t disagree. Technically, if you do not possess an AR, possession of a DIAS is OK. Advertising it? Silly. I hope he gets off. Still an idiot.
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