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Old December 15th, 2018, 02:32 AM #1
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NY Nunchuck Law Struck as Unconstitutional.

Jim did it. After 15 years of litigation Jim overturned the nunchuck ban. Court ruled in his favor today.


I came to support him at the final hearing two weeks ago. This is us right after Court. Jim Maloney on the left. If there is an appeal I am going to take care of it for JIm

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Old December 15th, 2018, 06:18 AM #2
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Wow amazing dedication to a cause.

But on the downside....

I guess the’ll be bands of millennial nunchuck wielding Antifa to contend with now.

(Somebody please find the appropriate GIF for me)
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Outstanding!!

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On a serious note, what do you think the states Immediately and longer term responses are likely to be?
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A friend of mine made a set of nunchucks in wood shop in Junior High School.
In my very limited experience with them I found that the person most likely to be injured by them was the person using them. At least that's what happened when I tried to use them!
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Nunchuks are the most effective self-destruct weapon made!


Congrats Jim and Wolfwood, and a continual thanks to Wolfwood!
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They ain't my thing but more FREEDOM is always good!

Thanks and congrats!
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this is fantasic news!
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It would be nice to see another court apply the same standard to 2A issues:

As Plaintiff correctly argues,
“it is neither the province nor the duty of a federal court to refrain from constitutional
adjudication in perceived deference to prior state legislative inaction, especially, where, as here,
such prior inaction can readily be remedied if the legislature deems it necessary to take appropriate. The Court applies a clear and convincing evidence standard of proof.


So the Court is saying the burden is on the Government, with "clear and convincing" as the standard, not just preponderance, that a weapon is unusual and unusually dangerous, to fall outside 2A protection. It looks like they simply brush consideration of the "common use" standard aside and concentrated on "not typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes." for whether a state has successfully rebutted the assumption of 2A coverage.

If the same logic and standard is applied to mag bans, none would remain standing. Unfortunately this is only a District Court, and I can't imagine NY not taking it to Circuit on appeal. And that's where we almost always lose. Because, as we all know, as soon as criminals hear the ban has been lifted, there will be instant nunchucku mayhem throughout NY.
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What is concerning long term is that the term “Unusual and Uncommon” will Always apply to new technology.

If this standard is to become the bar for measuring 2A applicability we have a decent leg to stand on right now when fighting to protect Semi-Auto firearms and magazines with a capacity greater than Zero.

However future generations will be fighting criminals and tyrannical governments armed with Lasers, rail guns, armored and mechanically assisted soldiers.

There needs to be a standard set where civilians can never be left behind with respect to future self defense technology.

Sadly this is a fight that the next generations do not even understand.
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