Hornady wont sell to NY agencies.
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Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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Certain Agencies will do an extensive evaluation of ammo selections. Either on purpose to select what is best for their specific needs , or to establish themselves as "Influence Leader" amongst other Agencies .
And then the rest of the herd piggybacks their selection following one of a handfull of Agencies of national or regional reputation.
But in fairness, right now more than any other era , ammo marketed to the LE market is quite similar in performence, and none of the major brand offerings particularly suck . So closing their eyes and rolling a dice between major brands would still result in every LE Agency having effective and servicable ammunition.
So choices are often sucuessfully made on basis of either low bid , or which distributor gives best customer service .
And then the rest of the herd piggybacks their selection following one of a handfull of Agencies of national or regional reputation.
But in fairness, right now more than any other era , ammo marketed to the LE market is quite similar in performence, and none of the major brand offerings particularly suck . So closing their eyes and rolling a dice between major brands would still result in every LE Agency having effective and servicable ammunition.
So choices are often sucuessfully made on basis of either low bid , or which distributor gives best customer service .
smokey
2A TEACHER
- Jan 31, 2008
- 31,576
Critical defense or critical duty? Critical defense is designed to only go 11 inches in gel, so I'd think it would be out from consideration from the getgo.
I've got an urge to go out and buy a mess of Critical Defense today!
The FBI ammo is 9mm+P 135gr Flexlock Critical Duty.
https://press.hornady.com/release/2018/04/26/hornady-awarded-fbi-9mmp-service-ammunition-contract/
https://press.hornady.com/release/2018/04/26/hornady-awarded-fbi-9mmp-service-ammunition-contract/
ohen cepel
Ultimate Member
I stand corrected, got the wrong critical, but the FBI did go with them.
smokey
2A TEACHER
- Jan 31, 2008
- 31,576
No biggie, I never even heard they went with the hornady load and figured they were using gold dots or something. Critical defense could make more sense for any issued subcompacts they may use, since the duty line may start to fail to expand at lower velocities. Still, thanks for posting, since now I learned about them choosing the critical duty load. I gotta get me some more critical duty 45.
I have had some of the Hornaday Custom 40 S&W 155gr XTP jam in my Glock 27 and my S&W40VE as well. Its almost like they will not load correctly when they get to the feed ramp in my pistols and load only halfway. It happens when I get halfway thru my mags while shooting them. So not sure if its a mag issue or the ammo itself. I am using Glock mags and S&W mags for my ammo. When i use FMJ ammo i have no trouble at all...
Good on Hornady! Glad to see less explaining and appeasing and cajoling that isn't working. Perhaps its time for a loud and clearly communicated middle finger salute instead. If not now, then likely soon.
- Nov 11, 2009
- 31,181
Just by the way, from the Barrett website:
Lest we forget who our friends are.
Lest we forget who our friends are.
deesly1
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- Nov 16, 2011
- 412
This may seem like a stretch but why don't Gun owners across the country organize. Tell all Ammo Manufacturers, that we will not purchase any more ammo until state governments like CA, MD, MA, NY, IL, and any other rogue governments stop the banks and unconstitutional laws. Dry them up so bad they cannot even defend there states.
- Nov 11, 2009
- 31,181
You might have noticed how we here all agree on nearly everything.
Should be a simple process, like herding feral cats.
CrazySanMan
2013'er
I totally disagree
- Nov 11, 2009
- 31,181
I would expect no less.
- Feb 21, 2018
- 86
ok? the ny state government doesn't care if hornady doesn't sell to them. i don't understand why people are rejoicing about this. there are plenty of other manufacturers that ny can buy from.
I'm sure the Russians will sell to NY agencies. Just put the Dems on the case and they'll make the deal.
Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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Even if push came to shove over this, every Gov't agency in the country could be easily supplied by ATK .
The ammunition biz is just a small pimple to the overall ATK , which is primarily a defense contractor .
The ammunition biz is just a small pimple to the overall ATK , which is primarily a defense contractor .
- Nov 14, 2010
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- Nov 14, 2010
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Hornady threw down the gauntlet, and I am sure that others will follow. Soon, NY will only be buying offshore, IF they buy at all ... and backfire on them because guns are bad they should prevent the State ability to finance them. If his edict is legal and enforceable, I can see banking institutions boycotting New York.
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