Maryland Constitution I believe.
Call Hogan's office and demand he veto SB1000
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Maryland Constitution I believe.
danb
dont be a dumbass
Yeah this is my fear as well. With 3/5 majority could they change the rules? Where is the single subject rule for extraordinary sessions actually written? I dont see it in the MD constitution. And I dont expect the legislature to conform to tradition when it comes to Hogan.
Yeah I looked for it today. I did not see it. There are three mentions of an extraordinary session. None say that the topic is limited. The three mentions: Gov can declare a extraordinary session by proclamation, a majority of both houses can request one, or one can be called prior to a regular session for apportionment. Its not clear to me that for the first two the topic is limited. The last, maybe the topic is limited to reapportionment, maybe not.
Nope, it is in state law, I have to find it, and they would have to pass a bill to change it.
Yep, the calling of one is there, but the single subject is not, but given that Maryland is a single subject state when it comes to legislation, it follows that any special sessions would be the same. I will look for it tomorrow when I have time.
The pdf that dblas linkes states:
"If a bill presented after the session is vetoed, the veto message must be considered immediately at the next regular or special session of the legislature,..."
So the GA would be required to bring it up if they call a special session to elect a new leader.
However, the posted document cites neither the State Constitution nor MD Code. We'll only know for sure by seeing the original source.
"If a bill presented after the session is vetoed, the veto message must be considered immediately at the next regular or special session of the legislature,..."
So the GA would be required to bring it up if they call a special session to elect a new leader.
However, the posted document cites neither the State Constitution nor MD Code. We'll only know for sure by seeing the original source.
danb
dont be a dumbass
Vetoed bills are always taken up as an early order of business in a special session. Here's a link to proceedings from the 2006 special session. http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frmMain.aspx?ys=2006s1/proceedings/house/hse_1_$.htm
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Thanks for the assist.
PowPow
Where's the beef?
I just left my voice message.
Here's the actual text from dblas' citation in comment #17 earlier. It gives us the 20 days to write and call. Do both!
Presentation of Bills to Governor: Except for constitutional amendments and the budget bill, presentation of all bills to the Governor is mandatory. The budget bill becomes law upon its final passage and cannot be vetoed. Bills must be presented to the Governor within twenty days after adjournment of a session, and in the case of such bills, the Governor may veto within thirty days after presentation. If the Governor does not veto a bill, it becomes law. The Governor may not veto a constitutional amendment.
Veto Power: The power to override a veto rests with the legislature. If a bill is vetoed during a regular session, the veto message is considered immediately. If a bill presented after the session is vetoed, the veto message must be considered immediately at the next regular or special session of the legislature, except that the legislature during the first year of a new term may not override a veto. A three-fifths vote of the elected membership in each house is necessary to override a veto.
Presentation of Bills to Governor: Except for constitutional amendments and the budget bill, presentation of all bills to the Governor is mandatory. The budget bill becomes law upon its final passage and cannot be vetoed. Bills must be presented to the Governor within twenty days after adjournment of a session, and in the case of such bills, the Governor may veto within thirty days after presentation. If the Governor does not veto a bill, it becomes law. The Governor may not veto a constitutional amendment.
Veto Power: The power to override a veto rests with the legislature. If a bill is vetoed during a regular session, the veto message is considered immediately. If a bill presented after the session is vetoed, the veto message must be considered immediately at the next regular or special session of the legislature, except that the legislature during the first year of a new term may not override a veto. A three-fifths vote of the elected membership in each house is necessary to override a veto.
PowPow
Where's the beef?
This is the first year of a new term, is it not?
danb
dont be a dumbass
Yes, but what is means that if an election intervenes between a veto and a new session, the new legislators may not override. Next year will not be the first term session.
PowPow
Where's the beef?
So, last year was generally safe from override after the end of the regular session?
danb
dont be a dumbass
Not quite: if a bill is presented more than 6 days before the end of the session, the veto override happens the same session. In other words, all the items they really want done, they make sure are moved to the .Gov desk in time to override same session.
That is the general rule, important stuff moves early. Note that the legislature already overrode Hogan vetoes on a number of items already, before Sine Die.
It's also noteworthy in my mind HB1000 did not get passed in time for a veto override this session. It could have, but didnt.
PowPow
Where's the beef?
Right. I assume that's what they did with HB1302? Work was extremely crazy for me this time last year, so I didn't have a chance to follow.
danb
dont be a dumbass
what was 1302?
Special session scheduled for May 1st, to elect a new speaker.
PowPow
Where's the beef?
ERPO
Raineman
On the 3rd box
So Hogan would still be within the time limits to veto it AFTER the May 1 special session?
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