Bill to Arm Firefighters, Medics Passes in Virginia Senate

bwceng11 · Jan 23, 2019

This bill wouldn't see the light of day in Annapolis!

https://www.jems.com/articles/news/...ighters-medics-passes-in-virginia-senate.html

ironpony · Jan 23, 2019

Continuing to divide .gov and citizens?

Stoveman · Jan 23, 2019

ironpony said:
Continuing to divide .gov and citizens?

VA citizens can already carry, this bill would allow FF/EMTs to carry while on duty.

Reading is comprehension.

ironpony · Jan 23, 2019

Stoveman said:
VA citizens can already carry, this bill would allow FF/EMTs to carry while on duty.

Reading is comprehension.

So a double entendre of sorts, in VA citizens can carry and this bill would allow them to carry. Got it.

Rejoining a currently separated group rather. My bad , my MDS break must need to be more stringent!

nedsurf · Jan 23, 2019

The LTs, CPTNs and other firehouse management in New Orleans are armed. Just too many drunks , druggies and crazies in that city assaulting fire and EMS responding to help them. Administering narcan can really piss off a junkie.

Stoveman · Jan 23, 2019

nedsurf said:
The LTs, CPTNs and other firehouse management in New Orleans are armed. Just too many drunks , druggies and crazies in that city assaulting fire and EMS responding to help them. Administering narcan can really piss off a junkie.

Hey, there you are! Good to meet you the other day.

RepublicOfFranklin · Jan 23, 2019

A better bill would be that FD, EMT, and PD’s right to carry is only legal as long as the public also has a right to carry.

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nedsurf · Jan 23, 2019

Stoveman said:
Hey, there you are! Good to meet you the other day.

Nice to meet you too sir.

AssMan · Jan 23, 2019

There's a catch - You must have been "previously employed as a law-enforcement officer or as a member of the Virginia National Guard, Armed Forces of the United States, or Armed Forces Reserves..."

AssMan · Jan 23, 2019

RepublicOfFranklin said:
A better bill would be that FD, EMT, and PD’s right to carry is only legal as long as the public also has a right to carry.
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The public does have the right to carry.

traveller · Jan 23, 2019

I suspect most fire and rescue organizations in VA will restrict their employees from doing so.

In MD we already have armed EMTs and paramedics. They come with a green/black helicopter.

Docster · Jan 23, 2019

nedsurf said:
The LTs, CPTNs and other firehouse management in New Orleans are armed. Just too many drunks , druggies and crazies in that city assaulting fire and EMS responding to help them. Administering narcan can really piss off a junkie.

It pisses ME off :mad54:

Tower43 · Jan 23, 2019

traveller said:
I suspect most fire and rescue organizations in VA will restrict their employees from doing so.

In MD we already have armed EMTs and paramedics. They come with a green/black helicopter.

By law, they're already allowed to carry, but work can restrict them, this bill would circumvent that.

As for the troopers... well if you're lucky you're in an area near a hanger and they'll get to you in... 20-25 minutes lol

AssMan · Jan 23, 2019

Tower43 said:
By law, they're already allowed to carry, but work can restrict them, this bill would circumvent that.

This bill requires approval from the Chief. What it appears to do is circumvent the normal permitting process.

traveller · Jan 24, 2019

Tower43 said:
By law, they're already allowed to carry, but work can restrict them, this bill would circumvent that.

Still requires agency approval. I doubt many chiefs will be eager to deal with that ball of wax.

As for the troopers... well if you're lucky you're in an area near a hanger and they'll get to you in... 20-25 minutes lol

Usually we get 'Trooper 2 in 16 minutes' and we have to hustle to set up a landing site.

RepublicOfFranklin · Jan 24, 2019

snallygaster said:
The public does have the right to carry.

Tying the ability of PD’s to carry with that of the regular public will keep it that way.

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