Pre application for permit - approval before safety course

Odarlin1 · Jan 17, 2019

Senator Hough's bill 0114 proposes to change the MD permit process to be more in line with DC. No

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Authorizing a person to apply for preliminary approval of a handgun permit to wear, carry, or transport a handgun without completing a certified firearms training course; requiring the Secretary of State Police to investigate an application for a handgun permit; requiring the Secretary to issue preliminary approval if the applicant meets certain requirements except the certified firearms training course; requiring an applicant to satisfy the firearms training requirement within 120 days after receipt of preliminary approval; etc.

HE introduced it in 2018 as SB0027 - it passed the Senate but got put in a drawer after recommitment to Judiciary. Special Order tied it up.

Biggfoot44 · Jan 17, 2019

Almost passed both houses in 2017, but the anti's made a trivial amendment @ 2333hrs, and couldn't be revoted fast enough to beat the clock.

Odarlin1 · Jan 17, 2019

Biggfoot44 said:
Almost passed both houses in 2017, but the anti's made a trivial amendment @ 2333hrs, and couldn't be revoted fast enough to beat the clock.

Ahha! Thanks. Hopefully better luck this year. But with Dumais who knows.

danb · Jan 17, 2019

less of a chance this year than last or the year before. I think republicans lost seats.

deMontjoie · Jan 17, 2019

danb said:
less of a chance this year than last or the year before. I think republicans lost seats.

Republic lost 7 seats in the House. Practically no chance of passing this session.

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Mike OTDP · Jan 18, 2019

Let's try anyway. Seriously, we tend to put 100% of our effort into defense...time to go on offense for a change.

PJDiesel · Jan 18, 2019

danb said:
less of a chance this year than last or the year before. I think republicans lost seats.

No worries, Uncle Larry will take care of it. :sad20:

Moorvogi · Jan 18, 2019

the synopsis sounded good.. but then reading the rest, they still have the G&S requirement.. and that's where i lost interest.

SCV/SAR Patriot · Jan 18, 2019

I halfway wonder at times if these legislators put these bills in with really no intention to change things just so they can run back to their districts and say hey we’re fighting for you in Annapolis. I just don’t see much fight in any of them. I could be wrong though.

deMontjoie · Jan 18, 2019

Mike OTDP said:
Let's try anyway. Seriously, we tend to put 100% of our effort into defense...time to go on offense for a change.

A nice thought. And it would have been potentially feasible if we had succeeded in winning another 5 State Senate seats or 7 seats in the House Of Delegates. Unfortunately we gained only one Senator and LOST 7 Delegates. Those we lost included some of our strongest 2A proponents. Plus the DEMs took a sharp lurch leftwards, replacing a number of their more traditional Maryland Machine Politicians with “true-believer” socialists/communists.
Elections have consequences and the extremely low turn-out by pro-2A voters has really hurt us —at least for the next 4 years.
Personally I have pretty much given up on legislation for the foreseeable future. Our only near term hope is a favorable landmark SCOTUS ruling.

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deMontjoie · Jan 18, 2019

PJDiesel said:
No worries, Uncle Larry will take care of it.

Hogan cannot do anything if the bill never reaches his desk — which no pro-2A bills did in the last session. And he cannot even effectively veto anti-2A bills without the assurance of a legislative override.

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If SCOTUS rules on one of the Peruta-like cases that are currently bubbling- up towards the Court, that is our best hope here in Maryland for achieving a Shall-Issue policy.

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PJDiesel · Jan 18, 2019

What bill........

The MSP acts at the pleasure of our Governor. They are able to make up the rules as they go. Certainly Hogan can set new or modify existing policy within departments as he likes.

deMontjoie · Jan 18, 2019

PJDiesel said:
What bill........

The MSP acts at the pleasure of our Governor. They are able to make up the rules as they go. Certainly Hogan can set new or modify existing policy within departments as he likes.

What Bill? This thread is based on the discussion of a bill to grant pre-approval for Maryland Handgun (Wear & Carry) Permits.

I only wish that the Governor had greater power than he does for oversight of the MSP-LD. Unfortunately, the MSP takes their legal direction from the Attorney General — and we all know who that is.

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Schipperke · Jan 18, 2019

If it passes, how many that provide training would go out of business?

PJDiesel · Jan 18, 2019

I see said the blind man....

I was replying to another thread in this thread then perplexed at the replies...

deMontjoie · Jan 18, 2019

PJDiesel said:
I see said the blind man....

I was replying to another thread in this thread then perplexed at the replies...

I’ve done that too before.

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Stoveman · Jan 18, 2019

deMontjoie said:
What Bill? This thread is based on the discussion of a bill to grant pre-approval for Maryland Handgun (Wear & Carry) Permits.

I only wish that the Governor had greater power than he does for oversight of the MSP-LD. Unfortunately, the MSP takes their legal direction from the Attorney General — and we all know who that is.

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The last I checked the #1 at MSP works at the discretion of the governor and the MSP is the AG's client.

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