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Old June 8th, 2018, 03:17 PM #1
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Snake Identification needed

Can anyone id this snake that was relaxing outside my front door?

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Old June 8th, 2018, 03:19 PM #2
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Looks like a garter, they come in differing color schemes
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Looks like a Corn Snake to me.
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I thought garter snakes were more striped than spotted. Also, when I tried to nudge this guy on his way, it was very aggressive and stuck repeatedly. Also, it shook its tail.

Looking at pictures online, I see a bunch of candidates. But, like you said, variations in color make it difficult. So far, things that look similar are:
rat snake, pine snake, milk snake, Northern water snake, and, of course, baby rattlesnake!

According to good old wiki-p, the tail shake is a characteristic of fox snakes that sounds like a ratter when in leaves.

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Corn snake.

The diamond/spear shape on the head is a giveaway.
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Lots of snakes shake their tails including your common black rat snake.

Corn snake for sure.
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Corn snake.

The diamond/spear shape on the head is a giveaway.
interesting, i was going to say juvi black rat but that would look to be wrong.
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The picture DonH posted of the corn snake has the distinctive diamond. It is had to see in my OP pic, but in person, the head had more of an irregular inverted chevron. In other words, the "diamond" was not present in the nose-ward direction.
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The picture DonH posted of the corn snake has the distinctive diamond. It is had to see in my OP pic, but in person, the head had more of an irregular inverted chevron. In other words, the "diamond" was not present in the nose-ward direction.
My best guess is juvenile black rat snake.
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My best guess is juvenile black rat snake.
I just looked at pictures of juvenile black rat snakes and I think that is correct. When I first started looking I did not realize they looked so different as adults and that was all I initially saw pictures of.
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