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Great idea. How can we do that legally?
It's MD dude, just pay a bunch of illegals cash under the table, multi-time deported are best.
Great idea. How can we do that legally?
I won't be submitting anything. I think it's great to trust the media when it fits your thoughts but when they get articles wrong all the time the "false news" flag gets waved.
Until there is a real source which actually explains the disposition of each application I stand by my thought process. There is no way Commissioners are turning away HALF of the folks requesting them. The only way I could see this happening is if they aren't qualified to get an order and those are being counted.
Perhaps one day we will see a real article with the numbers and disposition of each one. Until then I'm not buying "half that were applied for" were denied at the Commissioners level. I could see an initial request being denied by a sitting Judge.
There is a lot of "fear" regarding getting these wrong at each and every level and there isn't a ton of training. I doubt HALF are being rejected.
I won't be submitting anything. I think it's great to trust the media when it fits your thoughts but when they get articles wrong all the time the "false news" flag gets waved.
Until there is a real source which actually explains the disposition of each application I stand by my thought process. There is no way Commissioners are turning away HALF of the folks requesting them. The only way I could see this happening is if they aren't qualified to get an order and those are being counted.
Perhaps one day we will see a real article with the numbers and disposition of each one. Until then I'm not buying "half that were applied for" were denied at the Commissioners level. I could see an initial request being denied by a sitting Judge.
There is a lot of "fear" regarding getting these wrong at each and every level and there isn't a ton of training. I doubt HALF are being rejected.
More than ever, people need to show up in Annapolis, but I fear that people really just don't care about their rights in Maryland.
That is an excellent sign idea for the future. I'd buy one, but don't want to be on a list.
Where can you find a breakdown of Red Flag protective orders filed by county?
If people don't like the sources for information then send in your own damned PIAs and get the information your self. I'm ****ing done posting information for folks that continually questions it. Fend for your ****ing selves. And for those that don't like the lack of information shared by the State, then get off your dead asses and show up in Annapolis. I'm done for a while with all of the whiners that want be spoonfed the information.
Every ERPO that is granted, is public record, if you know the name, you can look it up in Maryland Judiciary Case Search.
Personal experience with this right now with my daughter.
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=228712 (w/c, so not all will see it)
Here's the deal:
I enter the respondent's name. The P.O.'s (1-peace/1-protective) show on Case Search, but the ERPO issued doesn't.
However, one of the conditions listed on the protective order is "Surrender All Firearms". Is this referencing the ERPO or something else? Even though he carries at work, he doesn't have anything personal to surrender, or so I've been told. Information is near impossible to find out. My daughter, or someone else in a position to have access could I suppose, but whether they'd share is anyone's guess.
It doesn't seem the ERPO would be listed as noted in bold on the text below. Any thoughts?
Source:
https://mdcourts.gov/district/ERPO#confidential
Are court records relating to an Extreme Risk Protective Order confidential?
All court records relating to an Extreme Risk Protective Order are confidential and the contents may not be divulged, by subpoena or otherwise, except by order of the court on good cause. A reference to the court record will not be included on the Judiciary's Case Search.
However, the following parties do have access:
personnel of the court;
the respondent or counsel for the respondent;
authorized personnel of the Maryland Department of Health;
authorized personnel of a local core service agency or local behavioral health authority;
law enforcement agencies; or
a person authorized by a court order for good cause shown.
I fear it will get worse. Guilty until proven innocent
People have said nearly exactly that.
And I quote:
Sound familiar at all? You said that people who won't come to rallies are detrimental to the cause. I would argue that posts like that are detrimental to the cause, because crapping on other people on our side who don't do the kind of activism that you want them to do just creates division between us.
I think that the PP is a hugely valuable group for our cause in Maryland, and what you guys do is important, but you've got to stop crapping on people who don't come to your events. We are all in this together, and the PP way is NOT the only way to make things better here. It's an important one, but it's not the only one, and people who don't come to the rallies don't deserve to be crapped on.
114 requests, 60 granted, do we know if any of the 60 granted turned out to be anything substantial? That's a rather telling statistic that seems to be missing.
114 requests, 60 granted, do we know if any of the 60 granted turned out to be anything substantial? That's a rather telling statistic that seems to be missing.
The CA shooter was visited by police who determined he wasn't bad enough to 5150 (CA's 1302)
Police Met With "Irate, Irrational" SoCal Mass-Shooter In April, "Didn't Feel He Warranted Psych Hold"
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-08/12-killed-mass-shooting-california-country-bar
The MGA will repeat this ad nauseum when they meet again.
You guys in MD need to counter with the fact that these laws kill the innocent while allowing those who need it to walk.
Every MD flag on Bladen St. should be replaced with that opening day of session.