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Firearms Dealers Who Won't Release on 8th Day
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You know I can't put myself in that situation. If I was a single mom with an HQL, I'd have already had a shotgun for 3 years. A single mom of HQL age without a shotgun must be one of those new anti's suddenly turned wanna be gun owners. That's a poop sandwich of her own making...savor the flavor, baby, right?
How did this breakdown first happen? I'm sure MSP didn't send out a notice saying, "Tomorrow at 4:53 pm our servers are going to crash. Please prepare accordingly." I'm betting there were quite a few shops who tried to log in, got nothing, and were left on their own for a while to figure it out. Logic (not that it is applicable) would suggest that someone with a fresh off of the presses HQL should be good to go on passing a background check. I know fairly recently we had a member here post that they went through all the bs to get HQL in hand, and then got popped on the actual 77r. How TF is that possible?
Apparently, it is 
I'm not saying it is OK in anyway shape or form at this point, (yes, torches and pitchforks now) but for someone trying to pick up on the very first day it happened...meh...it's like getting delayed. Heck, I got delayed for a couple of weeks on my very first handgun purchase back when there was no HQL and it was all paper. That was a nice, "Welcome to turning 21 in MD" experience.
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Bertfish
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Well whoever they are they can bite me.
You know I can't put myself in that situation. If I was a single mom with an HQL, I'd have already had a shotgun for 3 years. A single mom of HQL age without a shotgun must be one of those new anti's suddenly turned wanna be gun owners. That's a poop sandwich of her own making...savor the flavor, baby, right?
How did this breakdown first happen? I'm sure MSP didn't send out a notice saying, "Tomorrow at 4:53 pm our servers are going to crash. Please prepare accordingly." I'm betting there were quite a few shops who tried to log in, got nothing, and were left on their own for a while to figure it out. Logic (not that it is applicable) would suggest that someone with a fresh off of the presses HQL should be good to go on passing a background check. I know fairly recently we had a member here post that they went through all the bs to get HQL in hand, and then got popped on the actual 77r. How TF is that possible?
I'm not saying it is OK in anyway shape or form at this point, (yes, torches and pitchforks now) but for someone trying to pick up on the very first day it happened...meh...it's like getting delayed. Heck, I got delayed for a couple of weeks on my very first handgun purchase back when there was no HQL and it was all paper. That was a nice, "Welcome to turning 21 in MD" experience.
You're assuming normal gun buying situations. During this pandemic/lawlessness/riot season shotguns are in short supply.
It's not hard to put yourself in the position of that single mom. I can, and F a bunch of chicken shit dealers that won't release on the 8th day.
You know I can't put myself in that situation. If I was a single mom with an HQL, I'd have already had a shotgun for 3 years. A single mom of HQL age without a shotgun must be one of those new anti's suddenly turned wanna be gun owners. That's a poop sandwich of her own making...savor the flavor, baby, right?
How did this breakdown first happen? I'm sure MSP didn't send out a notice saying, "Tomorrow at 4:53 pm our servers are going to crash. Please prepare accordingly." I'm betting there were quite a few shops who tried to log in, got nothing, and were left on their own for a while to figure it out. Logic (not that it is applicable) would suggest that someone with a fresh off of the presses HQL should be good to go on passing a background check. I know fairly recently we had a member here post that they went through all the bs to get HQL in hand, and then got popped on the actual 77r. How TF is that possible?
I'm not saying it is OK in anyway shape or form at this point, (yes, torches and pitchforks now) but for someone trying to pick up on the very first day it happened...meh...it's like getting delayed. Heck, I got delayed for a couple of weeks on my very first handgun purchase back when there was no HQL and it was all paper. That was a nice, "Welcome to turning 21 in MD" experience.
If it had been MSP servers that scenario might be possible, but since they weren't, that scenario fails before it even leaves the door.
To be fair, JJ is a fixture in Annapolis, whether representing AGC or his own brand 2A Maryland however this issue is pretty cut and dried. Either you advocate for dealers following the law or you join the ranks and lick the boots of AAG Marc Bowen and the MSP when you ask for a few days to get this cluster **** worked out.
Pick wisely, it's not hard.
Pick wisely, it's not hard.
Fine. I give up trying to find life in the middle ground, and I don't have it in me to be outraged by everything all the time. Y'all win...burn the ffls out of business. 
I'll just go back to funny pictures.
I'll just go back to funny pictures.
Are they really that hard to find? My FFL offered me an practically new 870 express home defense for $250. Picking it up next week.
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Bertfish
Throw bread on me
Jesus tell me where that is
Ha! Most of the shotties we have gotten have come via consignment. Then they go out almost as fast as they come in. We did get a couple shipments of H&R Pardner pumps 3 or 4 weeks ago in both 12 and 20 ga. These were standard hunting shotguns, but Scott chopped barrels on a lot of 'em to 18.5". We received 10 in 20 ga the about 8 in 12. The 20s took 2 or 3 days to go. The 12s went in 2 days only because he had so many to chop, square up and touch-up the blue.
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KnowNothing
Anybody know if they are caught up yet?
DutchV
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- Jul 8, 2012
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That guy likes you. Most places have no defense shotguns in stock. Between high demand and COVID messing with supply chains, distributors are picked clean, too.
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DURING THE EVENING OF JUNE 28, 2020, THE MARYLAND STATE POLICE LICENSING DIVISION (MDSPLD) COMPLETED THE FINAL REGULATED FIREARM APPLICATION (77R) BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAD SURPASSED THE STATUTORY SEVEN-DAY WAITING PERIOD, AS PER MD PUBLIC SAFETY ARTICLE, § 5-123(A). REGULATED FIREARM DEALERS (RFDS) ARE HEREBY ADVISED THAT THE MDSPLD IS NOW IN COMPLIANCE AND ARE COMPLETING BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS FOR 77RS WITHIN THE SEVEN-DAY WAITING PERIOD. RFDS SHOULD NO LONGER TRANSFER REGULATED FIREARMS WITHOUT NOTIFICATION OF A COMPLETED BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION FROM THE MDSPLD.
GymRatz?
In 2013, I had a handgun at Atlantic Guns (Rockville) that they would not release on the 8th day, but nobody was at the time. Of course it was a crazy backlog at the time. They told me that they were plaintiffs in a lawsuit against MSPLD and to just be patient. They were very nice about it and they wanted their safes cleared out as soon as the rest of us were. Needless to say; my non-disapproved came back before they won the suit. I’d recommend them as they always shoot straight (pun intended) with their clientele and they did spend time and money on that lawsuit. Just my 2 cents
Who was it and are there anymore? Interesting still that the further west you go in Marylinistan the more law abiding the FFLs are and from Frederick east are mainly “CMA”. Made the mistake of getting one of my first Sigs from The Gun Center on Rosemont in Frederick. They absolutely refused to release until notified by MSP. Got a 1911 from Keystone Sporting Goods in Hagerstown and no problem. They even did the spent shell casings for me all within 8-10 days.
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