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Old August 9th, 2018, 06:26 AM #31
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If you are looking for * semi- common ctg, that can be fired in Krag using factory ammo * , not really an possibilities .

If you accept handloading only , with probably some case forming also , then you've got possibilities .

Spitballing within my personal druthers , IF the bbl was externally ok , I would have it rebored to .35 ( could do .338 if you wanted ) , and contemplate using .303 brass .



BUT if you really, really wanted a .30-30 Krag , you would want to think Norwegian, not US . The 6.5x55 rim is .480 , and the bolt face could easily be opened up for .30-30 size ( .506 ) .

I thought about using just a Norwegian bolt in a US rifle , but the chamber issues discussed above would require a new bbl , whereas a 6.5 could be bored out .


( Is it too late to again express admiration for the .30-40 as a cartridge ? )
What about a Danish Krag?
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For your desired cartridge conversion , a Danish would be even worse . It is in 8x56R , which has a .579 rim dia .

You would be looking for somthing in 6.5x55 for your purposes .
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Fair point. Finding a Norweigan though is a real PITA. Finding a cheap Bubba'd one is likely even worse. No easy solutions here I bet.
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Another piece of the puzzle located.

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Thats a thing of beauty , Im going to build a Bubba krag with a forward mounted scope I think. Or maybe something slightly more traditional.
Need to find a stock to re-purpose. Maybe some chopped up 1903 timber will work.
I'm sticking with 30/40.
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Well, I've decided to officially chase-down the Norwegian. The problem is... there's none to be found! This frankly sucks.

Looks like grabbing a Bubba'd 30/40 Krag and figuring it out from there might be a better idea.
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How are you planning on overcoming the .30-30 rim/Krag bolt body diameter/feeding problem?
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I might actually mill the bolt out and set a new barrel a bit further back. Changing the feed ramp angle would also be beneficial probably. It will likely need serious machining to get it right as well. This won't be a job for hand tools, this will be more of a job for a machine shop and possibly a CNC machine. Also, the extractor can be lowered with some machining.

It may also be possible to do a slight redesign on the bolt at the same time to reinforce it (as I believe the bolt is the weakest link of a Krag). I may be getting into serious gunsmith concept here though, but that's just how I am sometimes with my ideas. If it isn't broken, why can't I make it better?

Also, I'm not married to the idea of 30-30 WCF entirely. I could also go for 30-06 with a light load, etc.
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Do not go sticking a .30-06 in a U.S. Krag! Even if you are conscientious and feed it light loads sure as heck some dumb schmuck will come along eventually and jack up his world by firing modern high pressure loads in it.

I have played with Krags for 50 years and have converted a few to odd ball cartridges. Never ever have I been successful in getting anything but a .30-40 cartridge to feed reliably. Ever. It pretty much becomes a single shot when different calibers are applied. Bank on that. Save your sanity for projects that have a hope of being successful. The advise others have offered re: just sticking with the original cartridge is spot on. There really is nothing wrong with a .30-40 - it''ll kill anything that moves on the North American continent and is so seldom seen these days as to have become an exotic in its own right anymore. Brass is easy to find.

As for the one locking lug, that's it. Don't try lapping that lug so that the safety lug bears firmly too. What you accomplish by doing that is wearing through the case hardening on the lug/lug seat. Krag bolts don't blow out the back of the receiver when they fail, the safety lug is beefy and prevents that. Krag bolt lugs can be found to be cracked though- inspect carefully before using.

Here's one that is about as oddball a Krag that you'll ever see. Single shot, naturally. Chambered for .22 Maximum Lovell (Google it), Pacific double set triggers, bolt face altered and extractor hook extended to accommodate the small rim diameter. Bug hole shooter.

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Thanks for the write-up and pic.

Nice rifle.
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