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Old May 4th, 2021, 05:38 PM #11
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Thanks guys, please keep the feedback coming in, especially as it applies to any benefits or advantages, in prices, conservative values, taxes, etc., not only for counties in MD, but also to moving to a neighboring state, such as VA, WV, and even PA.

I've maintained a real estate license and done business since 2002, but almost exclusively in high density Montgomery County, so I have very limited experience with wells, septic systems, perc tests, propane, permitting, etc., all of which I'm slowly researching.

I know how tight the market has been and am planning for when prices eventually drop, which I suspect will be some time next year. I currently have a townhouse, that, aside from the neighbors, suits me quite well; so there's no urgent need to move; just a desire. I'd like to keep things under $450K, but do not require a specific size lot, square footage, garage, build date, or even condition, etc. It's just me and the GF; no kids, or even dogs. Ideally, it would be a 2-3BD, 2BA+ rambler with a 1-2 car garage, but I'm willing to compromise. Also, I prefer to do the remodeling myself, instead of buying these houses that people are flipping, which all look the same on the inside, light grey paint, wood-look vinyl planks, cheap stainless appliances.

Moderators, feel free to move the thread as you see fit, if it has wandered off topic.

Thanks again for the continued feedback!
I am scared to even mention this, but what about Carroll? Scared because I don't want a flood of people moving here.

My parents are in Colesville, one brother is in Colesville, another brother is in Hampshire Greens just north of Colesville close to Clovery, one sister is in Chevy Chase, and the last sibling, another sister, is in downtown Annapolis. My parents and 3 of my 4 siblings were over this weekend. My siblings and their families come by during the "summer" to ride the trails with me and then hang out in the pool. I am down that way in MoCo often enough. About 45 minutes to my parents without traffic. Two brothers are tossing around the idea of moving up here, but they aren't quick with making up their minds.

Before this market went bonkers, you could have found what you are looking for on a decent sized lot for $450k. Now, probably not so much, but I have not really been looking for the past 18 months.
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Old May 4th, 2021, 05:48 PM #12
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Frederick County has become Montgomery County Lite. It used to be quite conservative but so many Liberal Locusts have moved in to escape DC, MoCo, and Baltimore they're taking over steadily. These transplants tend to have higher incomes and since Frederick County is cheaper to live comparatively, the transplants want the same services they had before and the long-time residents are getting taxed out of existence.

My parents left Montgomery County for Frederick in 1966 due to the high taxation there...Frederick is catching up quickly.

Again sorry but The Original M Bob is correct. I chose Frederick county when I moved from PA 8 years ago. I moved to PA from Columbia MD 7 years prior to that. I thought by choosing Frederick I could escape the hypocrisy of Columbia. Frederick is much better... or was in the beginning. It seems to be slipping quickly down hill. Example:
I met a long time resident in Fredrick about 9-12 months ago. She told me, she had come into town to help her parents, (lived in the town of Frederick for 40 plus years) move the American flag, a pro trump sign and some Pro USA items out of or off the front porch of their home! She explained other neighbors had been targeted, harassed and given a hard time for same the week before. Both her parents are very old, not healthy and she was concerned for their welfare!
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Before this market went bonkers, you could have found what you are looking for on a decent sized lot for $450k. Now, probably not so much, but I have not really been looking for the past 18 months.
It will be very difficult if not impossible at the moment.
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Every Saturday the Frederick News-Post shows the property that closed for the highest amount the previous week. Homes have been selling for $1M+ and that astounds me. That raises the value and thus property taxes for all other properties nearby.

I guess whether that's a good thing depends on whether you're the seller or a buyer.
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I am scared to even mention this, but what about Carroll? Scared because I don't want a flood of people moving here.

My parents are in Colesville, one brother is in Colesville, another brother is in Hampshire Greens just north of Colesville close to Clovery, one sister is in Chevy Chase, and the last sibling, another sister, is in downtown Annapolis. My parents and 3 of my 4 siblings were over this weekend. My siblings and their families come by during the "summer" to ride the trails with me and then hang out in the pool. I am down that way in MoCo often enough. About 45 minutes to my parents without traffic. Two brothers are tossing around the idea of moving up here, but they aren't quick with making up their minds.

Before this market went bonkers, you could have found what you are looking for on a decent sized lot for $450k. Now, probably not so much, but I have not really been looking for the past 18 months.
Thank you very much for the suggestion! My online search includes Carroll county, as well as areas North East of Frederick, which look great on a map, but of which I know very little, unfortunately. An area that looks very attractive to me is off RT27, North of I70, away from larger developments. I plan to do more scouting in the coming months.

In reference to IronDuck's comment about the degeneration of parts of the city of Frederick, all I can say is that it seems to be in line with the larger urban centers throughout the US. For someone to associate the American flag with support for Donald Trump, or even a specific political party, the person has to be extremely limited, intellectually, and know nothing about or care for American history. It's truly sad that this is even taking place; especially in a city that used to have all the good traits of a rural town. It's a great argument for home schooling; that's for sure.

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Weve been in Frederick County for almost 30 years, moved up here from Germantown.

There is a LOT that has changed. Youre right that Jenkins is a great 2A defender. However, I was talking with a friend who was at a meeting with him and he said Jenkins made the comment that, given how much Frederick has changed, hes not confident he could be elected again, even if he ran. He is getting up there.

Im not sure what to say. If we lose Jenkins to a softer, less constitutionally minded sort, you can bet gang activity is going to rise sharply. He has been very tough on them.


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Montgomery County resident since '83, thinking about buying a small, detached, house somewhere less crowded and not as loud and annoying. I much prefer a rural setting to an urban one, especially in my limited, lower, price range. I need to be within a reasonable driving distance to my elderly parents in Bethesda.

From a 2A perspective, is Frederick County any better than Montgomery? I believe the Sheriff is the person who decides just how hard to push the issues, and realize that it's an elected position, but seeing that Frederick is more rural, and rural folks generally respect and value independence more than those in the city, or the suburban hood, I figured I'd ask the question. If it weren't for my parents, I'd be looking at other states.

Feel free to recommend alternative places, cities, counties, neighboring states, etc. that an independent, freedom-loving, hardworking, God-Fearing, educated, person, with no reason to fear the police, might find attractive to live in.

Thanks in advance for the suggestions!
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Every Saturday the Frederick News-Post shows the property that closed for the highest amount the previous week. Homes have been selling for $1M+ and that astounds me. That raises the value and thus property taxes for all other properties nearby.

I guess whether that's a good thing depends on whether you're the seller or a buyer.
Ditto that. We just had a house go up in our neighborhood that sold for 1.44 million.
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Oversimplified :

In a binary choice between Mo Co and Fred Co ,Fred Co is Less Worse .

If you ask a long time resident , today's Fred Co sucks compared to 20 yrs ago , and they see the trend accelerating .
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In a binary choice between Mo Co and Fred Co ,Fred Co is Less Worse .

If you ask a long time resident , today's Fred Co sucks compared to 20 yrs ago , and they see the trend accelerating .
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I've been looking for a property in the same areas for the last 1.5 yrs. I prefer 5+ acres, a house I can rehab (instead of the lipstick on a pig houses that pass for a rehab these days), or raw land. There is not much out there where your neighbors are not on top of you. I see Land that is in a flood zone going for $60k+ an acre. Same for open farmland. I need trees, or a nice view. Taxes are close enough between Frederick and MoCo that I figure it to be a wash. Taxes are better in Carroll, but at any time they can "reassess" you house so that it is closer to market value and that will change. I watched the reassessment happen in MoCo and Anne Arundel county, so I figure its inevitable.

If I had to move, you might find something near the PA line in MD. Or Washington County westward in MD. Is the Eastern Shore an option? Western Part of WV or VA, if it works for you. The idea is to get a decade or so ahead of the flood of people retiring in MoCo, NoVa, DC and such as they retire and move a little farther out.

The short of it for me I am staying in place until I can make a bigger move farther away. Midwest or Kentucky areas. The money saving aren't there for an intermediate move. I am lucky to have a great private lot in MoCo. I am unlucky cuz its MoCo.
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