Question about Transprting handgun To/From the Range

dreadpirate · Feb 9, 2017

Probably been asked a million times; if you go to work - then go to the range - then go home - is that considered on the way to/from the range

or

are you compelled to got to work - go home pick up the handgun - go to the range - got back home??

And assume that your place of work is OK with a firearm in the vehicle. I for example federal gov facilities would be a no no unless your are LE.

iH8DemLibz · Feb 9, 2017

Handgun is from the home to the range and to the home again.

No detours. No stopping to eat. No stopping for gas. Etc.

I would think leaving your handgun in your car at work for eight hours would be especially bad if caught.

.02

dreadpirate · Feb 9, 2017

Ok - I found this thread which looked at this and similar questions:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=1806661#post1806661

dreadpirate · Feb 9, 2017

iH8DemLibz said:
Handgun is from the home to the range and to the home again.

No detours. No stopping to eat. No stopping for gas. Etc.

I would think leaving your handgun in your car at work for eight hours would be especially bad if caught.

.02

The above mentioned thread addresses your point. I am going to NOT leave the handguns in the car even if it's for just a couple hours; better safe than sorry.

dreadpirate · Feb 9, 2017

Being this is Maryland - probably should have guessed.

iH8DemLibz · Feb 9, 2017

dreadpirate said:
The above mentioned thread addresses your point. I am going to NOT leave the handguns in the car even if it's for just a couple hours.

More times than I can count, I've found myself heading to the range on an empty tank.

With the engine sucking fumes on the way back home.

It's such a BS set of handgun laws and regulations.

But they appear to be all the rage in Maryland.

Wendigo · Feb 9, 2017

As long as you're transporting your firearms in the legally prescribed manner, to places they are legally allowed, and not while intending to engage in criminal activity, you should be fine. I'm not a lawyer but I can't find where it says you must go from home to "approved venue" and back home again with no diversions.(Bolded "on the way to", does anyone have the "legal" definition of this phrase?)

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/f...cle=gcr&section=4-203&ext=html&session=2015RS

(3) the carrying of a handgun on the person or in a vehicle while the person is transporting the handgun to or from the place of legal purchase or sale, or to or from a bona fide repair shop, or between bona fide residences of the person, or between the bona fide residence and place of business of the person, if the business is operated and owned substantially by the person if each handgun is unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or an enclosed holster;
(4) the wearing, carrying, or transporting by a person of a handgun used in connection with an organized military activity, a target shoot, formal or informal target practice, sport shooting event, hunting, a Department of Natural Resources–sponsored firearms and hunter safety class, trapping, or a dog obedience training class or show, while the person is engaged in, on the way to, or returning from that activity if each handgun is unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or an enclosed holster;
(5) the moving by a bona fide gun collector of part or all of the collector’s gun collection from place to place for public or private exhibition if each handgun is unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or an enclosed holster;
(6) the wearing, carrying, or transporting of a handgun by a person on real estate that the person owns or leases or where the person resides or within the confines of a business establishment that the person owns or leases;
(7) the wearing, carrying, or transporting of a handgun by a supervisory employee:
(i) in the course of employment;
(ii) within the confines of the business establishment in which the supervisory employee is employed; and
(iii) when so authorized by the owner or manager of the business establishment;

dreadpirate · Feb 9, 2017

And this pertaining to handguns. Long guns do not have the same restrictions - correct?

dreadpirate · Feb 9, 2017

Also - what about a designated collector?

Wendigo · Feb 9, 2017

dreadpirate said:
And this pertaining to handguns. Long guns do not have the same restrictions - correct?

The part of the law I posted is specifically about handguns, long gun transport rules are more relaxed.

dreadpirate said:
Also - what about a designated collector?

Honestly, designated collector doesn't mean a thing. Bona fide collector is what really matters. Problem is, that's just another undefined term. Can you be a collector without being designated as one? Can you be a collector if you have very few firearms? Does owning many firearms actually make you a collector? What if the firearms you're transporting aren't actually part of your "collection", but just firearms that you also happen to own?

rbird7282 · Feb 9, 2017

iH8DemLibz said:
Handgun is from the home to the range and to the home again.

No detours. No stopping to eat. No stopping for gas. Etc.

I would think leaving your handgun in your car at work for eight hours would be especially bad if caught.

.02

Nonsense. The law says nothing of the sort.

iH8DemLibz · Feb 9, 2017

rbird7282 said:
Nonsense. The law says nothing of the sort.

OK!

Expand on that then.

What sort of gallivanting around CAN you do with a handgun in your car?

And be specific.

rbird7282 · Feb 9, 2017

I'm not saying driving all over town with it, but stopping for gas or running into a 7-11 on the way to/from the range is not prohibited. Do you really think if you had your range bag and targets in your vehicle that you'd be arrested/charged because you stopped for gas? Sorry but those who say you can't make any stops whatsoever are suffering from BGOS.
BTW, I'm not advocating transporting outside the law and keeping a handgun in your car.

iH8DemLibz · Feb 9, 2017

rbird7282 said:
I'm not saying driving all over town with it, but stopping for gas or running into a 7-11 on the way to/from the range is not prohibited. Do you really think if you had your range bag and targets in your vehicle that you'd be arrested/charged because you stopped for gas? Sorry but those who say you can't make any stops whatsoever are suffering from BGOS.
BTW, I'm not advocating transporting outside the law and keeping a handgun in your car.

Gas OK and 7-11 OK.

If that's OK. What else is OK?

Going gun shopping at your LGS. Stopping and getting a bite to eat at Wendy's?

Are we talking about locations? Time spent at those locations?

iH8DemLibz · Feb 9, 2017

rbird7282 said:
I'm not saying driving all over town with it, but stopping for gas or running into a 7-11 on the way to/from the range is not prohibited. Do you really think if you had your range bag and targets in your vehicle that you'd be arrested/charged because you stopped for gas? Sorry but those who say you can't make any stops whatsoever are suffering from BGOS.
BTW, I'm not advocating transporting outside the law and keeping a handgun in your car.

Gas OK and 7-11 OK.

If that's OK. What else is OK?

Going gun shopping at your LGS. Stopping and getting a bite to eat at Wendy's?

Are we talking about locations? Are we talking about time spent at those locations?

Biggfoot44 · Feb 10, 2017

Short answers :
No.
Yes.

Open ended with no difinitive answer :

Stopping enroute is probably more zero, but undefined .

hodgepodge · Feb 10, 2017

Maryland law does not prohibit stopping. (Other states use the word directly.)

On the other hand, MD does not define transport.

Personal, non-lawyer opinion: You're OK to stop for gas. You're OK to stop at Wawa. (Better than 7-Eleven) Never stop at Wendy's.
I'm not going to leave a gun i my car for a longer period when I can't keep an eye on it.

kalister1 · Feb 10, 2017

If you can remember a few yeas ago when some people had their Pistols stolen from the car when they left an indoor shooting range in the Ft. Meade Area?
I worked with one of those men. He stopped at a grocery store and came out to find his window smashed and his gun gone. The Police made no comment to him about NOT being able to stop on his way home.

swinokur · Feb 10, 2017

rbird7282 said:
Nonsense. The law says nothing of the sort.

this. absolutely nothing in 4-203 that mentions directly to and from an allowed activity. Some other states do, but not MD.

You neede to decide for yourself the level of risk you are willing to expose yourself to when deciding how to transport to an allowed activity.

IANAL.

appropriate section of 4-203 below

rseymorejr · Feb 10, 2017

iH8DemLibz said:
More times than I can count, I've found myself heading to the range on an empty tank.

With the engine sucking fumes on the way back home.

It's such a BS set of handgun laws and regulations.

But they appear to be all the rage in Maryland.

If I need gas, I'm stopping for gas. If I'm hungry, I'm stopping to eat. If I have an errand to run where I feel my truck will be safe, I'm stopping.

I wouldn't stop at the movies or go into a mall for 2 hours but that is just general concern for having my vehicle broken into.

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