H&K MP5 value?

Slowhand · Jul 4, 2016

A "friend of a friend" asked me about selling his H&K Model 94 select-fire MP5.
He's had it since mid-1980's. It has 3 factory magazines and 1 aftermarket mag. It also has an Assault Systems carry case.
He says he fired 2 mags thru when he got it, and none since. He's a retired police detective. He has no internet access. Local gun store told him roughly 15-20K value.
I have zip experience with NFA Class 3 items. I told him I would inquire here. Any thoughts or guidance you could share would be appreciated.

IMBLITZVT · Jul 4, 2016

Slowhand said:
A "friend of a friend" asked me about selling his H&K Model 94 select-fire MP5.
He's had it since mid-1980's. It has 3 factory magazines and 1 aftermarket mag. It also has an Assault Systems carry case.
He says he fired 2 mags thru when he got it, and none since. He's a retired police detective. He has no internet access. Local gun store told him roughly 15-20K value.
I have zip experience with NFA Class 3 items. I told him I would inquire here. Any thoughts or guidance you could share would be appreciated.

Roughly double the lower end of the dealer estimate...

Retail price guide:
http://machinegunpriceguide.com/html/german_subguns_1.html

rico903 · Jul 4, 2016

Yep LGS was way off. Also check out subguns.com and Sturm web site.

dist1646 · Jul 4, 2016

Well, the dealer has to make a profit. :innocent0

Alphabrew · Jul 4, 2016

See if you can get us some pics of that sexy thang (the MP5, not your friend)

Boss94 · Jul 4, 2016

I know a dealer in VA paying good money for MP5s . If your friend is looking to sell it pm me and I'll give you his info.

Combloc · Jul 4, 2016

The HK94 and MP5 are mutually exclusive. One is semi auto and the other is select fire. If it is a converted HK94, value will greatly depend on who did the conversion, how it was done and current condition. If it is an MP5, it's most likely illegal since none (or at least VERY VERY few) were imported for civilian sales to my knowledge. IF, a big if, it is a true transferable MP5, then figure 40K plus. The guys over at HK pro are who you need to be talking to. There are some extremely knowledgeable guys over there.

5.56blaster · Jul 4, 2016

30k. Give or take a very little bit.

Boss94 · Jul 5, 2016

Like Combloc said alot has to do with who did it and how it's done. Is it a sear gun? A push pin gun? Registered receiver? Is it a 4 position lower ? 3 lug barrel ? Marked as a mp5 or does it retain the hk94 markings? A2 or A3 stock? It all makes a difference on value. The 30k plus guns are quality pieces with all the goodies .the bare bones Ceiner sear guns are in the 20k range.

smdub · Jul 5, 2016

Boss94 said:
the bare bones Ceiner sear guns are in the 20k range.

You haven't been keeping up

Sears are $30k by themselves now.

Boss94 · Jul 5, 2016

Oh I have been just don't see the 30k value in the sear by itself but that's just me. Most dealers aren't paying that for them at the moment either.I guess my opinion doesn't control the current market lol.

Caeb75 · Jul 5, 2016

Youre looking right around 30k give or take *IF* it is a sear gun or a trigger pack gun from a reputable SOT.

Youre looking around 20k+ish if it is a single caliber registered receiver gun.

The reason for this is because you can use a sear or trigger pack on anything from a 94 to a 21 and everything in between as long as the host is set up for it.

The RR you are stuck with what you have.

smdub · Jul 5, 2016

Boss94 said:
Oh I have been just don't see the 30k value in the sear by itself but that's just me. Most dealers aren't paying that for them at the moment either.I guess my opinion doesn't control the current market lol.

Indeed. Sears were $25 mid last year. I saw a SP89 + sear sell in-person for $30 late last year and was a very good price (since a real SP89 is 6-7.) A Fleming sear sold for $26 on sturm just a few weeks ago in under 30min. Guys lined up to buy at that price. Its just the new reality. Dealers will always pay less - they have to make a profit. And deals can always be found if you are patient/lucky enough.

Sgt6402 · Jul 5, 2016

http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/...sults_format=long&db_id=27487&query=retrieval

This is just a registered sear, so the dealer saying it is only worth 15k to 20k is obviously looking to make a Big Profit.

bobthefisher · Jul 5, 2016

As most here already know, it depends on whether it's a registered receiver or registered auto sear. The registered receivers go for about $10K less than the registered auto sears, as the sears/packs can be legally swapped from host-to-host on the whole HK9x series of firearms.

Simply look at the paperwork. Back then they allowed multiple calibers in the description and typically it will say "machinegun auto sear". If the paperwork is not immediatly available then pop the trigger pack off and see if any part within the pack is serialized. If there are no serialized parts within the pack then it's probably a registered receiver.

Let us know what you find. I'm sure some here would actually offer a fair price

Logan Betterton · Jul 6, 2016

Trading-in firearms or selling them to the gun shop is not always a bad option, however this is NOT the time to do it as you can make yourself thousands more selling it outright. As posted above it depends if its a registered receiver or registered auto sear.

I would check out the auctions to come up with an exact price but it's likely he could get $30k+. This is assuming that based on the low round count, it's in premium shape. Get some really nice photos of the whole package and a decent description and it should sell.

Slowhand · Jul 6, 2016

Pictures added. He's taking it to local gun shop to check for sear with s/n tomorrow.

Boss94 · Jul 6, 2016

Its a very basic gun. No 3 lug, No paddle mag release, And a basic not even a SEF lower. No A3 stock. Could very well be a Ceiner conversion. Looks to be in very nice shape from what I can see. I personally would believe Mid to upper 20s Max without those features. A friend had 1 no dealer would give him more than 24k It looks equally nice if not nicer. Had a 3 lug, Paddle mag. 4 position lower with 3 shot burst . A3 stock and re stamped. Sold it to another friend for 30k a bit more than a month ago. Features add dollars.

Slowhand · Mar 5, 2021

Great info and thanks all. Friend was my Bro-in-law, since passed away. My sister just got the BATF transfer papers back. She'll be looking to move it sometime. I'm going to see if she'll get more pics.

teratos · Mar 5, 2021

Sgt6402 said:
http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/...sults_format=long&db_id=27487&query=retrieval

This is just a registered sear, so the dealer saying it is only worth 15k to 20k is obviously looking to make a Big Profit.

I wonder if the guy looked like this?

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