Mr H
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He will get special mention from me, for sure... but I expect him to suffer the Wrath of MOM...
OFFICIAL AELR THREAD!!
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He will get special mention from me, for sure... but I expect him to suffer the Wrath of MOM...
Robert
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ShoreShooter
Ultimate Member
- Feb 27, 2013
- 1,042
OK, help me to understand where things stand.
Is my memory correct that to rent a handgun at a MD range you will need a HQL?
To get an HQL you now need live fire training?
With what? If you are a newbie, how are you going to do that?
As I recall, you cannot even loan a handgun to a friend because that is an illegal transfer?
Is this one of those problems where you can't do A until doing B, but you can't do B until you have done A?
Is my memory correct that to rent a handgun at a MD range you will need a HQL?
To get an HQL you now need live fire training?
With what? If you are a newbie, how are you going to do that?
As I recall, you cannot even loan a handgun to a friend because that is an illegal transfer?
Is this one of those problems where you can't do A until doing B, but you can't do B until you have done A?
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Mr H
Banana'd
It blows huge slimy chunks... but today was 'productive'....
After having read through the complete thread I wanted to take a moment to thank each and every person who was able to attend the hearing today. Your presence continues to let the Progressives who want nothing more than to see all firearms made illegal understand that we will not go away. Nobody should be surprised by the outcome today. The majority of Maryland politicians are clearly off the left end.
However, as I have read from a couple of posts, there were specific questions asked by our side, and the answers to those will likely be heard again in a court room in the future. This is far from over.
However, as I have read from a couple of posts, there were specific questions asked by our side, and the answers to those will likely be heard again in a court room in the future. This is far from over.
ShoreShooter
OK, help me to understand where things stand.
Is my memory correct that to rent a handgun at a MD range you will need a HQL?
-----No. Rent is offsite.
To get an HQL you now need live fire training?
-----Unless you have a regulated firearm or otherwise can opt out of training.
With what? If you are a newbie, how are you going to do that?
-----Training class
As I recall, you cannot even loan a handgun to a friend because that is an illegal transfer?
-----Wrong. Bona fide loan ok.
Is this one of those problems where you can't do A until doing B, but you can't do B until you have done A?
-----No
OK, help me to understand where things stand.
Is my memory correct that to rent a handgun at a MD range you will need a HQL?
-----No. Rent is offsite.
To get an HQL you now need live fire training?
-----Unless you have a regulated firearm or otherwise can opt out of training.
With what? If you are a newbie, how are you going to do that?
-----Training class
As I recall, you cannot even loan a handgun to a friend because that is an illegal transfer?
-----Wrong. Bona fide loan ok.
Is this one of those problems where you can't do A until doing B, but you can't do B until you have done A?
-----No
chuckgregory
Member
I'm donating in anticipation of the suit(s). Thanks MSI, AGC, and all you folks that were there today.
Mr H
Banana'd
We all appreciate anything that any of you can do.
I don't know about most people, but I'm not going to loan a firearm to a newbie unless it's a family member. Too much liability in the litigious State in which we live!
csanc123
Ultimate Member
"Officer, I swear I just borrowed this so that I can go to the range for training"
Yeah right...that's gonna go over well.....
a1Fitz
Member
Thanks to everyone that was able to attend today. It gives me hope that if we continue to fight for our rights someone some day will give them back!
ShallNotInfringe
Lil Firecracker
- Feb 17, 2013
- 8,554
Interesting angle. Fired a live round from a cap gun. Infringement, um I mean requirement, met
Nice! Tried to make the point in my verbal testimony that this live fire component seriously impacting those not financially or physically able accommodate the infringement...wish I had come up with a good example.
Seemed to be. There was some confusion about if an amendment was possible at all.
Seems that way to me. The point was made that law writing was being done by MSP, and should be done by legislators.
I think 4 others in total, is memory serves. Maybe 5...
Register to vote, and get others registered. Spread the word. We must vote some of these folks out!
Will be interested to see what Erin's story is this time. Save the recent editorial piece by Sky, I recall prior stories from the baltimore sun being pretty one-sided against guns.
ShoreShooter
Ultimate Member
- Feb 27, 2013
- 1,042
Thanks guys.
But it remains true, does it not, that as of now there is NO approved training program, trainers, or training facilities?
But it remains true, does it not, that as of now there is NO approved training program, trainers, or training facilities?
Mr H
Banana'd
Erin did post a piece almost immediately after, that was pretty fair. I'll look for a link to it.
Very far from over! The court cases will put an end to some of this nonsense. Some will be handled by voting people (legislators, state officials, etc.) off the island
Mr H
Banana'd
Very far from over! The court cases will put an end to some of this nonsense. Some will be handled by voting people (legislators, state officials, etc.) off the island
I'll not go into any detail here (since it's just my own perception)...
There were several things that came out today during the hearing that will make for some interesting problems for the Administration.
ShallNotInfringe
Lil Firecracker
- Feb 17, 2013
- 8,554
What's really hard to accept is when I imagine any other bloc of individuals taking the time to go and try in earnest to redress their government and representatives only to be disrespected and disregarded the way the law abiding firearms community is. I really feel for all the folks that have been standing up for a long time for our rights and had to face this level of utter contempt. Thank you.
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