Remington 700 SPS 300 BlackOut

SkunkWerX said:

Picked up on Saturday. Thanks Mark and Tom!

Rem 700 SPS chambered in 300 AAC BLK
16.5" threaded 5R barrel, 1:7 twist to stabilize the heavy subsonic rounds.

The model# for this one is: 84205

Twisted on the SDN6 for the pic.
Sorry not fired yet, but soon.

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Polecat said:

What optics are you using?

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SkunkWerX said:

Cheapo scope, Weaver Kaspa.
Had it, so slapped it on as a place holder.

I don't want high magnification as my usage will mostly be roughly 75 to 100 yard distances. A 3x9 would work fine too, I'm thinking.

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ChannelCat said:

Those things are tack drivers. Even I am getting groups the size of quarters, albeit only 100 yards. Mine is in .308. Congratulations!

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SkunkWerX said:

KingJamez: Yes, I reload. I don't quite expect what I get from my .223 SPS shooting supers, but I think it will be plenty respectable based on reports.

Anil: The cost of reloading BLK is in the .30 cal projectiles.

StickerLT: This is the Hogue stock that comes with this model, some dislike it, some like it. it's got an ACU-look as far as color goes.
I'm indifferent, it works for my purposes. There is a possible issue with these stocks, but only sometimes. They are supposed to be free floating,
but they can sometimes touch the bore out at the end of the stock.
I sand them down another ~1mm (or so) to make sure there is no bore/stock contact beyond the receiver.
If a dollar bill will slide between the bore and stock without pinching or dragging, it's good to go.

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Minuteman said:

I was visiting 2A when someone was picking up that gun, looks awesome in person; especially dig the Hogue rubbery stock. I believe the one the fellow was picking up was in .308, vice 300BLK. I think I'd prefer the .308 because that should be a seriously accurate rifle at range, and I read the 300BLK is somewhat limited in that regard. Plus there's more .308 to be found than 300BLK.

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rsilvers said:

No - 300 BLK is much closer to 308 than you think. Let me give you three examples:

110 grain TAP 308 is 2800 fps from a 16 inch barrel. It drops to the muzzle velocity of 300 BLK at 130 yards. So 308 only has a 130 yard advantage for this bullet. If we consider 400 fpe to be the max range, then that is 610 yards for 308. 300 BLK drops to that energy at 475 yards.

610 / 475 is 1.28, so 308 has 1.28 times the range of 300 BLK.

To help prove your point though, I will pick the other end of the extreme - a heavy high-BC bullet and go by a velocity limit.

175 grain from 308 is 2603 fps. 300 BLK 175 grain is 1900 fps. It drops to a 300 BLK muzzle velocity at 420 yards.

(reference: http://digital.turn-page.com/issue/16258/19)

Now if we consider the 175 grain 308 range from a 16 inch barrel to be 1000 yards (the bullet is at 1180 fps then), 300 BLK will reach that velocity at 580 yards.

1000 / 580 is 1.7, so 308 has 1.7 times the reach of 300 BLK in this example that favors 308 more.

And a third way to look at it as by max point blank range (+- 3 inches). This time, I will pick the best practical bullet for each caliber.

16 inch 308 with Mk188 LR ammunition - 246 yards.
16 inch 300 BLK with Barnes VorTex - 220 yards.

So 308 has 1.1 times the range for which you can shoot without adjustment of sights or compensation.

In summary, 308 has between 1.1 and 1.7 times the range of 300 BLK, depending on the bullet and metrics.

It is fair to call it 1.5 times more reach, but not 5 times.

So the question is - is the larger, heavier, and more expensive rifle - with much more recoil and vastly more noise and blast, worth it for 1.5 times the reach? Yes if you want it. No if you want to save weight. I would always want to own both.

Shot with 300 BLK Barnes:

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